14-06-2000 16:39									#1
	worst starting position ever !!!!!!! Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Map size 32X32
4 human players
I took mongols and found myself on the south pole sent setlers out (one to the left one to the right) when my settlers met in 3200 bc I realised that I was stuck on the pole
Has anyone had worse than this ?

	14-06-2000 16:46									#2
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and you didn't come last

	14-06-2000 16:53									#3
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Thats right Makeo I guess that means I'm not the worst player in the world anymore

	14-06-2000 16:56									#4
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hydey... that's a tough one to beat

But, that sounds like a perfect start to use for the arctic challange.

	14-06-2000 17:42									#5
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Actually, I've started out on the pole before, and I think it was a 40x50 map. You play with 4 players on a 32x32 map and somebody's bound to get screwed.

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	14-06-2000 18:27									#6
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Yeah, I came last in Hydey's Arctic Capers game. Makeo found me very early on and wiped me out. Except I was hosting, Civs were checked not to restart, the host transfer screwed up ... and the game disappeared down the plughole into Civ history! I can proudly claim to have come last in a winnerless game!

PS: Hydey, all you had to do was build on the tundra, wait for Map Making, build a boat and slip across to some land. Chee. Talk about a whinger.

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	14-06-2000 18:27									#7
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Don't stand close to Hydey in a thunderstorm!

	14-06-2000 18:29									#8
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Better still, don't stand near him when he's mowing.

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	14-06-2000 18:40									#9
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I had those starts in civ2.42. So I could imagine that sooner or later someone gets a start like this in MP.
Next time feel free to insist on a restart .

	15-06-2000 09:53									#10
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I've seen some polar starts before,but never with no access to mainland.
You deserve credits for playing such a start anyway. I'll be definitely asking for restart.

	14-06-2000 22:21									#11
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We play on small small worlds and I will let someone call for a restart if that occurs.

RAH

	15-06-2000 03:23									#12
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We had a few restarts for techs and one for terrain. When Hydey asked for a restart off the ice I told him to stop whining - it would be a test of his ingenuity. Best part was, he bought it

	15-06-2000 03:33									#13
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AH... Maybe my company should offer you a job in sales... If you could sell that line, you could sell anything

	15-06-2000 03:42									#14
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LOL..stop whining...thats great.

I have had no less than 6 of these starts.4 with purple and 2 with orange.Doesn't take long for your 2 settlers to meet up again.Always on small or tiny maps.

hehehe..stop whining and just play will ya...LOL... that is funny.

	15-06-2000 03:42									#15
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i host small worlds with small land mass, 5 or 6 civs kingx2x2.
i play purple and go last so if anyone starts on the pole it is me. starting on the pole is fun. ive won 3 games that way out of ~30 played from the pole. Sometimes i dont have a way off the pole. i build a city on the turndra with a whale and hopefully a fur. i go straight for map making.
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	15-06-2000 06:56									#16
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Hydey actually went right around the world too, about 20 turns worth of play. We didn't know he had no access to land at all, he'd been making jokes about such a thing earlier so I for one didn't believe him for a long time. I actually saw one of settlers go past my island on the fringe of the map.

When finbar got eliminated he finally convinced us it was true, after a plaintive "what do I do now" message when his settlers met. The game folded anyway because the host didn't transfer. I wonder how long we could have kept him playing

We couldn't believe a. that he went along with it and b. that he kept playing as long as he did. After the game, finbar went into Hydey's civ and confirmed that what he had been saying was true. He was playing Mongol.

Lucky he wasn't telling us he was having a heart attack:

"Get up you wimp"

"Yeah right Hydey, next you'll be saying your stuck in the ice on the edge of the map."
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	15-06-2000 11:19									#17
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In actual fact, in that last game, we offered him restarts a number of times. Along with Horse's charitable, "Play it as it lies, wimp". His responses to our offers were along the lines of ... "Don't worry, I always lose anyway". Some people.

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	15-06-2000 15:10									#18
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Well that will teach ya for picking the purples. Go for Yellow or Green or blue much better starts there...

Besides if you keep up this whining you wil ltake away my title of champion Aussie Whiner !!!

	15-06-2000 15:32									#19
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They did offer me a restart but with my skills improving I thought it fair to give them all a head start. finbar was destroyed and had the game continued the others were obviously in trouble from the mongol eskimoes. My plan was to have Makeo crush the others and then lull him into a false sense of security until ready for my world famous sneek attack

	16-06-2000 02:44									#20
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by hydey on 06-15-2000 06:32 AM</font>

but with my skills improving I thought


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*snicker*

	16-06-2000 04:03									#21
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Spelling, Hydey, spelling! Mongrel eskimoes is spelled M-O-N-G-R-E-L eskimoes!


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	16-06-2000 20:30									#22
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by finbar on 06-15-2000 02:19 AM</font>
In actual fact, in that last game, we offered him restarts a number of times. Along with Horse's charitable, "Play it as it lies, wimp". His responses to our offers were along the lines of ... "Don't worry, I always lose anyway". Some people.

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ROTFLOL! How cruel.


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	17-06-2000 05:32									#23
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Yeah, we Australians are incredibly cruel to each other. We're allowed to be. If anyone else tries it ... beware the Oz Mafia!

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finbar
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	17-06-2000 08:09									#24
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Finbar raises an interesting point about Australian male culture. I've had a few spats with Ming on the OT about it. Now that he sees the way we talk to each other maybe he'll understand me better when I say "its a cultural thing."


Hmmm, culture may not be the right word

	17-06-2000 11:22									#25
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"kulcha" may be nearer the mark, AH

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	17-06-2000 11:24									#26
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Oh, you mean Fosters and Holdens?

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	17-06-2000 11:51									#27
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You can both get stuffed.

You realise of course that now that I have posted that comment above, anything that we do from now on can only be seen as parody?

I've trappped us all in our idiom


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	17-06-2000 13:01									#28
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Bore it up em Horse , the six axe handles across the arse Hydey is with you mate.
I'll just hang around in my stubbies and thongs ,sinking pots of VB until needed .

	17-06-2000 16:58									#29
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Fascinating, absolutely fascinating. Keep going, don't mind me and my notepad...

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	17-06-2000 18:32									#30
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Shut up faggot, I was only joking, and only for my Australian friends