02-12-2003 07:56									#1
	Currency - Poly+HBR trade with LL Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

We need to decide yay or nay on this deal so we can get back to negotiations with LL.

The details:

-Tabemono gives Currency to Latin Lover in exchange for Polytheism and Horseback Riding. The techs will be traded once they have been researched by the appropriate sides. One of Latin Lover's two IOU tech points is considered fulfilled by this deal.
-There will be a NTA period of ? turns, starting from the turn on which the trade takes place. While the NTA is in effect, neither side may trade the tech(s) gained from the other.

The NTA (indeed, the entire deal) will need to be confirmed with LL, but if approved by the team, whoever negotiates with them can sign this deal on the spot if LL agrees.

	02-12-2003 07:58									#2
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I think we should do it and with a NTA, not sure about the NTA length though. 30 turns would probably be best, but heck, I wouldn't say no to 40.

	02-12-2003 08:05									#3
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30 turns is fine with me, though 40 would be fine too.

	02-12-2003 08:14									#4
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30 turns. That's long enough to make it worthwhile, but no so long as to seem excessive.

	02-12-2003 10:10									#5
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Yeah, 30 turn NTA should be good.

	04-12-2003 00:48									#6
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If they agree, 30 turns is fine. 20 is fine by me, but I am a bit odd in trading techs that way. I wouldn't let that break the deal is all I am saying.

	04-12-2003 04:17									#7
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I think we have a majority backing now, so I had a short chat with MZ.

quote: [Kloreep] Can we talk about PTWDG II for a moment? [MasterZen] sure [16:55] [Kloreep] It looks like the team approves of the Currency-Poly+HBR trade, so long as a NTA is included [16:55] [Kloreep] How's the LL debate going? [16:59] [Kloreep] ? [17:01] [MasterZen] we accept it [17:01] [MasterZen] consider it done [17:01] [MasterZen] NTA for how long? [17:02] [Kloreep] 30 turns? [17:02] [Kloreep] That was the majority-favored length [17:06] [Kloreep] ? [17:12] [MasterZen] sorry, back [17:13] [MasterZen] well, we'll have to poll on 30, I think most of us had thought of around 20 [17:15] [Kloreep] 20 might work; I'm not sure how adamant the team is about 30 [17:15] [Kloreep] I'll post this chat and get back to you [17:17] [Kloreep] Would you see if 30 works for you guys? [17:26] [MasterZen] sure [17:32] * MasterZen has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

20 would be fine with me. UnO says 20 is fine too. Rhoth? Zargon? Sharpe?

Edit: Finished log

	04-12-2003 05:15									#8
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Yeah, 20 is fine. Things will have been traded out the wazoo by then anyway

	04-12-2003 06:27									#9
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20 is fine. Like UnO said, don't let the length of the NTA break the deal. If they want the deal at 20 turns NTA and 30 is the dealbreaker, go 20.