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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:32
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So long as the child isn't describing graphic sexual or other intimate acts, it's the child's right to describe the nature of his parent's relationship as much as it is anyone else. Why can other children talk freely about having a mommy and daddy, but not one who has two mommies?
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Boris:
My letter has your rebuttal. I would not prevent him from talking about his adopted family, but merely from the sexual preferences.
I remember being in grade 7 and asking about how gay people 'do' it, and having my teacher hem and haw. Now, if it is inappropriate for a 12 year old, it is also inappropriate for a 6 year old.
Last edited by Ben Kenobi on 03-12-2003 at 03:50
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:32
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As a teacher of your son's kindergarten class, certain comments he made have raised my concerns. Just yesterday, when asked by another child as to his religion, he responded that he was Christian.
While I do not agree with this belif, it is every parent's right to have a say in their child's welfare. Just as I would not wish to interfere with the religions of other children, I will not interfere with yours.
That being said, I feel discussion of what it means to be Christian as inappropriate for a kindergarten class and will raise the ire of many other parents who wish to protect their children. Therefore, I ask that you instruct your child to talk about his religion, because, as we all know, your religion ought to have no bearing on your child rearing.
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The double standard inherit in BK's proposed letter is astounding. So should a kid be prevented from talking about his mommy and daddy as well, or does the silence rule only apply to gay parents?
Where does a public school get off trying to "protect" someone's kid from knowing that some kids have 2 parents of the same gender? I don't recall of any right to not have your kid exposed to different values.
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Starchild
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a raving alcoholic drama queen with a penchant for the biosciences
Jan 1970
time: 00:32
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Starchild:
No, it would probably have been more along the lines of:
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If I was the mum that got that note, I'd have responded back with one saying that I don't agree with single parents arrangements and that, for the safety and protection of my child you see, they should also be forbidden from being discussed.
While we're at it, I don't agree with children being raised by grandparents, aunts and uncles, step-parents, or any of the other variety of family arrangements we accept without thinking. For my child's protection, I think it's highly inappropriate to talk about such things as divorce or being born outside of marriage.
If my child can't discuss his family, I see no reason to let any child discuss their own family.
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Dr Strangelove
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The word "gay" is vernacular and often used as a perjorative. Perhaps the boy should have used the word "homosexual" or "lesbian".
If the teacher permits one child to use the word "gay", will she be able to prevent other children from using it as a perjorative? hese are after all only second graders. It may be beyond their abilities to discriminate between the legitimate use of the word and the derogatory form.
What if Billy's dad's dad never married his dad's mom? Would Billy be allowed to refer to grandad as an "old bastard?"
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Bereta_Eder
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
The word "gay" is vernacular and often used as a perjorative. Perhaps the boy should have used the word "homosexual" or "lesbian".
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But that's not what got little marcus into trouble is it? It was the brute's he has for teacher repulsiveness of the fact that he has two moms. I sincerely hope there's a lawsuit here after all that happened in the US. At last one good thing can come out of the "suitmania" that reigns there.
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mrmitchell
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If a kid asked another kid what "straight" meant and he said "that's when you (boy) like a girl" or "you (girl) like a boy", would he have gotten in as much trouble?
Since a kid initiated it--it wasn't exactly the child yelling out "BEING GAY IS..." or the teacher saying "Now Marcus, explain the sin of your mother" then the teacher should be shamed  100x more. What, are you just going to let the other kid's question hang unanswered? And is it only okay to talk about your heterosexual parents, not your homosexual ones? Bah. I'm disgusted.
And why should this be left to the parents to teach anyways, as the teacher feebly attempted to use as a defense? It's a fact, and Marcus got it right. Homosexuality is being attracted to humans of the same sex as yourself. There's no different way for a parent to teach it. Now, a parent could teach a lie falsely resembling gayness ("and then Billy, every day when they wake up they pray to Satan before engaging in their Sin"), however.
Conclusions?
-the school is staffed by homophobes
-the teacher should be reprimanded some way
-the teacher and principal (was he involved, again? I forgot) should apologize
-the teacher and principal should both have to go to an hour-long sensitivity workshop where they have to write "My students can discuss things I disagree with" 100x over  
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mrmitchell
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That's not the truth, though. Are you gay because you like men? I have many friends I like, though that would not make me gay. |
Yes. Here, both participants in the discussion and the homophobe nitwit staffs knew that they meant "like" like as in "love" as in "****ing with dudes".
But just as it's okay to say "fiddlesticks" instead of "holy ****", it's also okay to say "like" instead of "****ing".
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03-12-2003 03:39
That really makes me mad.
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