20-01-2004 20:30									#211
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quote: The British cruisers near Helsinki and Istanbul were sunked.

	20-01-2004 20:31									#212
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BTW, "sunked"
did you mean sank or sunk?

	20-01-2004 20:42									#213
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quote: The British cruisers near Helsinki and Istanbul were sunked.

Is this to be considered a war declarationa against the British? One thing is supporting a revolution, but declaring war against the British/French is another thing .

	20-01-2004 20:48									#214
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quote: Originally posted by academia BTW, "sunked" did you mean sank or sunk?

Yes, sorry. "Sunk" is the right form.

quote: Originally posted by Kobra Is this to be considered a war declarationa against the British? One thing is supporting a revolution, but declaring war against the British/French is another thing .

The British cruiser was blocking Helsinki from my cruisers. I had to sunk it.

Also, France and Britain guaranteed the independence of Finland so I guess we are at war.

	20-01-2004 21:13									#215
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mmm... for the time being, USA will keep her neutrality.

Nevertheless, feel free to send your ambassadors to speak with USA

	21-01-2004 02:25									#216
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Sadened to hear that war is unprovokely unleashed upon Europe. Were does Germany and Italy stand on this matter?

	21-01-2004 04:02									#217
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Is negotiating impossible for Communists? I would have simply moved the ships had you asked me. However, you didn't and now we are at war.

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	21-01-2004 04:16									#218
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Up to now, the axis does not see any point in joining a side, this could change but isn't expected to. Yet should a party, while warring, threaten the Integrity of Germany we will certainly react accordingly.
To weather this conflict the Fuhrer considers blocking the Mare Balticum but thi, too, isn't decided yet.

	21-01-2004 07:09									#219
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The UK will not pass through German waters as long as Germany remains neutral.

	21-01-2004 17:16									#220
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quote: Originally posted by Squonk The fascist forces in Karelia were smashed easily.

Finland was a democratic country. We were not even allies of the germans. We were just friends

	21-01-2004 17:57									#221
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quote: Originally posted by POTUS Is negotiating impossible for Communists? I would have simply moved the ships had you asked me. However, you didn't and now we are at war.

Yes, peace is very much possible. We only demand that Finland and Turkey will be given to Soviet Union. As a gesture of good will I would give you a financial compensation (500 gold) for the sunken ships.

quote: Originally posted by Stalin II Finland was a democratic country. We were not even allies of the germans. We were just friends

I know. It was propaganda.

	21-01-2004 20:42									#222
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500 gold can't possibly pay the cost of x (several?) cruisers! Nice try!

France will respect German neutrality. However, Norway and Sweden has allowed France and GB to sail through their waters in order to assist their nordic brothers in Finland.

	21-01-2004 21:12									#223
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Well, how much is enough?

	21-01-2004 21:37									#224
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A couple of thousand gold would probably cover some of the damage. You would have to sell a lot of improvements to cover that. And you would probably have to pay monthly dues for some years.

At least that would be my demands had I been Britain.

	21-01-2004 21:42									#225
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btw, someone must have crossed 'the Istanbul strait' in order to engage in sea fighting. That's against the houls rules you know .

	21-01-2004 23:07									#226
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Technically I didn't break the house rule because my cruiser never crossed the strait and is still in the Black Sea.

	22-01-2004 01:01									#227
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Squonk could pay like every month a little.

	22-01-2004 01:46									#228
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You know you are up, Mikko?

	22-01-2004 02:04									#229
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yes I do Eivind

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	22-01-2004 02:14									#230
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Man! You are fast!

	22-01-2004 03:47									#231
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FASTER!
HARDER!
SCOOTER!



Nothing happened. Germany looks suspiciously at the increasing tensions between east and west.

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	23-01-2004 04:57									#232
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I just want enough to buy two new cruisers, however much that may be. Preferably paid in full by 1938.

	23-01-2004 05:17									#233
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Or you can give him two of your cruisers (asuming you only sank two).

	23-01-2004 17:25									#234
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Ok, I'll give you two cruisers by 1938.

	24-01-2004 04:47									#235
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Sure.

	25-01-2004 16:46									#236
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WAR ENDS

Treaty of Peace
Article 1: The war, between the British Commonwealth and the Soviet Union is hereby ended.

Article 2: The Soviet Union's territorial soverignity shall extend to the borders of the former Russian Empire and shall include the Republic of Turkey.

Article 3: The Soviet Union shall either pay the cost of the British Commonwealth building two cruisers, or shall give two cruisers to the British Commonwealth by January 2, 1939.

Article 4: The British Commonwealth promises the Soviet Union free passage through the Suez Canal and all other bodies of water controlled by the Commonwealth, provided that doing so does not interfere with regular Commonwealth operations.

Article 5: The Soviet Union promises the British Commonwealth free passage into the Black Sea and through all Soviet-controlled waters, provided that doing so does not interfere with regular Soviet operations.

Signed,
Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, and His Majesty's representative for the British Commonwealth;
Sir Anthony Eden, Foreign Minister of the United Kingdom, and His Majesty's representative for the British Commonwealth on Foreign Affairs;
Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov, representative for The Soviet Government and its head, Comrade Stalin;




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	26-01-2004 04:09									#237
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The French government is extremely pleased to see that total war was avoided.

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	26-01-2004 04:42									#238
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Germany demands the same benefits that are granted to Russia. This means extending the German borders to the Allies of Germany in WW1, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and Eastern Turkey.

	26-01-2004 05:06									#239
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That wasn't granted to Russia.

	26-01-2004 05:53									#240
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quote: The Soviet Union's territorial soverignity shall extend to the borders of the former Russian Empire and shall include the Republic of Turkey

Why should Russia get what remains forbidden for Germany? Germany also wants its former borders back and what gives you the right to 'gift' the souvereign Turkish Republic to Russia?

We appeal to the USA for intervention in this case. Germany will not tolerate the inclusion of our former allies Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey, which have gained souvereignty quite some time ago, into the soviet Union without being asked in advance.

We cannot understand how this deal could be accepted by the 'free western democracies'.