04-12-2003 21:09									#1
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Ive begun my first RPG, the CRPG "Baldurs Gate" Its a D and D based RPG, set in the Forgotten Realms. My impression is that FR is one of the most popular settings for D and D, both CRPG's and Pencil and paper, etc. I am aware that there are CRPG's not based on D and D rules.

So - what are the "major" (best selling, best games, most influential, ones you liked best, whatever) computer RPG's in the following categories
1. DandD set in the Forgotten Realms
2. D and D in other settings
3. Other than D and D.

	04-12-2003 22:40									#2
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Planescape:torment

Icewind dale 1&2

Fallout 1&2

There are others that I plan to try,

Never winter nights, temple of elemental evil

	04-12-2003 22:41									#3
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Oh btw, all except Fallout are DnD

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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge Planescape:torment Icewind dale 1&2 Fallout 1&2 There are others that I plan to try, Never winter nights, temple of elemental evil

So IIUC:
Forgotten Realms: BG1 and BG2, Icewind 1&2, NWN, and ToEE.
DnD in other settings:Planescape Torment
Not DnD:Fallout 1 &2

	05-12-2003 00:14									#5
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arcanum is not DnD

Exile is not DnD

there is a series of games called the Golden Box set which are all DnD (and forgotten realms), they are older of course

all the Rogues and Roguelikes are not DnD (but similiar)

I have played a number ofotherones as well, don't recall everything

(Bard's Tale was not DnD I believe)

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller arcanum is not DnD Exile is not DnD there is a series of games called the Golden Box set which are all DnD (and forgotten realms), they are older of course all the Rogues and Roguelikes are not DnD (but similiar) I have played a number ofotherones as well, don't recall everything (Bard's Tale was not DnD I believe) Jon Miller

So IIUC:
Forgotten Realms: BG1 and BG2, Icewind 1&2, NWN, and ToEE. All Goldenbox games (notably Pools of Radiance and Pools of Darkness)
DnD in other settings:Planescape Torment
Not DnD:Fallout 1 &2. Arcanum. Exile. Rogues.

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Morrowind!!!

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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge Planescape:torment Icewind dale 1&2

Those are both in the Forgotten Realms, aren't they? (or are the planar worlds not considered part of forgotten realms?)

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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Morrowind!!!

Is that DnD? Is it set in the Forgotten Realms?

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the whole daggerfall universe

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller the whole daggerfall universe Jon Miller

Forgotten Realms?

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not forgotten realms, I think

the one that Morrowind is in

Jon Miller

	05-12-2003 01:28									#13
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Is that DnD? Is it set in the Forgotten Realms?

Being the thread starter one would think you would have read your own post

quote: So - what are the "major" (best selling, best games, most influential, ones you liked best, whatever) computer RPG's in the following categories 1. DandD set in the Forgotten Realms 2. D and D in other settings 3. Other than D and D.

This falls into the "Other than D&D" category

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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Being the thread starter one would think you would have read your own post

Yup, i listed 3 categories. Did i not make myself clear? It was my intention that those who responded would say WHICH category the game(s) they named belonged in. IE i was listing the 3 categories for the purpose of doing a "sort" not merely a "select" Since the 3 categories are exhaustive for CRPG's (since i include an "other" category) I thought it was obvious I was asking which category - otherwise id merely have asked (as others have before) which are the best CRPG's.

I guess I'll have to be more explicit next time.

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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Being the thread starter one would think you would have read your own post This falls into the "Other than D&D" category

Thank you for clarifying. I asked if it was DnD to see if what category it was in, not to suggest that you had incorrectly posted it. I suppose I could also have asked if it was other than DnD to make myself clearer, but that seemed pointless. If I have 3 exhaustive categories, and something doesnt fall into 1 or 2, obviously it falls into 3. So you could simply have said "no, its not Dnd"

	05-12-2003 09:49									#16
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How could anybody forgot about Ultima and Wizardry?

None of these are D&D.

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Planescape: Torment is not D&D, and is not based in the forgotten realms. It is based in the planecape universe. It uses modified D&D rules. It bears a strong resemblance to D&D but it is still different enough not to be called D&D.

	05-12-2003 13:27									#18
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don't forget Diablo2 and 1

not d&d

Dungeon Seige

not d&d

Morrowind

not d&d by a long shot- very different rules and races.

Many minor games- divine divinity, other diablo clones.

Pool of Radiance is D&D and based on the forgotten realms. I believe the temple of elemental evil is as well.

The forgotten realms by the way (correct me if I'm wrong- I'm no D&D junkie) is the world (or is it just the continent) of many D&D adventures. But there are other universes and such for D&D, but I never really see anything based on that. Games like Baldur's Gate 2 do allow you to travel to some of these planes- like the Haer De (can't spell this bard's name- he's a Teifling) quest that takes you to another plane. Also the planar sphere.

	05-12-2003 13:28									#19
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actually it is DnD

I ahve the source books

Jkon Miller

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really? hmm okay. I just figured it wasn't since so many rules are different.

	05-12-2003 14:37									#21
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Planescape is DEFINITLY D&D.

D&D games :
Baldur's Gate 1 (and expansion)
Baldurs Gate 2 (and expansion)
Pool of Radiance
Curse of the Azure Bonds
Secret of the Silver Blades
Pools of Darkness
Pool of Radiance 2 (Ruins of Myth Drannor)
Icewind Dale (and 2 expansions)
Icewind Dale 2
Neverwinter Nights (and 2 expansions)
Temple of Elemental Evil
Planescape Torment
Deathknights of Krynn
Two other Dragonlance games (can't remember the names right now)

Ummm... there's probably more.

-Jam

	05-12-2003 21:19									#22
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so it seems like theres a whole lot of RPG's set in Forgotten realms - pools of radiance, IWD, NWN, and a whole bunch of older games. Theres also a whole bunch of RPG's with no relation to DnD, notably fallout, Diablo, deus ex, elder scrolls series, etc.


The only case of a DnD game that is not in a Forgotten Realms setting is Planescape:Torment. Any others?

	05-12-2003 21:59									#23
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there is probably some setin Greyhawk

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller there is probably some setin Greyhawk

Temple of Elemental Evil is, isn't it?

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And some of the 'gold box' ones aswell... I'm not sure what setting any of them are in.

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Temple Of Elemental Evil is D&D not in Forgotten Realms (Geryhawk is the first campaign world for D&D).

And since noone mentionned them, there's Rogue, Nethack, Angband, and other roguelikes which are not D&D and hardly have any universe. But then these are a bit archaic. (before anyone flames me, I still play Nethack).

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I still play all of them

and I did mention them

Jon Miller

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I enjoyed the Realms of Arkania series which are non D&D and based on a German PnP sytem i think. The games were Blade of Destiny, Star Trail and Shadows over Riva. Bit dated now (the first was an Amiga game) but high on my list of classics.

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quote: and I did mention them

Ooops. Sorry. Missed that.
Btw ToEE is in Greyhawk but that doesn't really matter much considering it's mostly a big dungeon.