07-12-2003 22:55									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Kirnwaffen The problem I see with the Mars Direct plan is the amazing level of optimism regarding the logistics. One kink in the supply chain, and you could strand several unfortunate astronauts, and, considering our track record todate with mars landings, that possibility has to be considered.

Right. That's why I would send perhaps two of everything to Mars first, and then, and only then send a manned mission. If we were not going to send the return fuel with the manned mission, I think we would send two refuelling modules into orbit around Mars so that if one were to fail, we could access the other. I hardly think we could send landers to the Martian surface large enough to blast off, back into space, with 107 tons of fuel.

	07-12-2003 22:59									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Skywalker, you are throwing in with the Dark Side? Check our Boris's avatar.

I'm throwing in with the "not loony" side.

	08-12-2003 01:54									#123
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skywalker, and just who is the "not looney" side?

	08-12-2003 01:55									#124
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here's a hint: not you

	08-12-2003 02:11									#125
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker here's a hint: not you

skywalker, I have no idea why you are trying to make a permanent enemy in me, but you have

	08-12-2003 03:09									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Right. That's why I would send perhaps two of everything to Mars first, and then, and only then send a manned mission. If we were not going to send the return fuel with the manned mission, I think we would send two refuelling modules into orbit around Mars so that if one were to fail, we could access the other. I hardly think we could send landers to the Martian surface large enough to blast off, back into space, with 107 tons of fuel.

yes, lets litter mars with Junk as we do earth (and it's orbit)

If we send all of our useful elements to mars, we will run out of useful elements here on earth.

	08-12-2003 05:31									#127
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Humans are kind of a virus that infect healthy cells (planets) of an organism (universe): they use that particular cell to multiply themselves; once their numbers go above certain threshold, they would seek out new cells to infect.

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And you have a problem with that how...?

	08-12-2003 06:15									#129
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker And you have a problem with that how...?

No, no; Emperor's New Groove!

"And that's.........bad?"

	08-12-2003 06:21									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless Humans are kind of a virus that infect healthy cells (planets) of an organism (universe): they use that particular cell to multiply themselves; once their numbers go above certain threshold, they would seek out new cells to infect.

ahh but you seem to not realize how potent the immune system of the universe is once you venture from the safety of one small protected portion of the body.

	08-12-2003 06:50									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident ahh but you seem to not realize how potent the immune system of the universe is once you venture from the safety of one small protected portion of the body.

A successful virus knows how to beat the immune system.

	08-12-2003 06:55									#132
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quote: ahh but you seem to not realize how potent the immune system of the universe is once you venture from the safety of one small protected portion of the body.

Don't you think this analogy is going a bit far?

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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless Humans are kind of a virus that infect healthy cells (planets) of an organism (universe): they use that particular cell to multiply themselves; once their numbers go above certain threshold, they would seek out new cells to infect.

I agree. We should exterminate every cell of this virus, one by one. You start.

	08-12-2003 20:18									#134
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Quote from cnn.com's coverage of the same story:

quote: "You've got the Chinese saying they're interested -- we don't want them to beat us to the moon. We want to be there to develop the sweet spots," Republican Senator Sam Brownback says.

That's good, Senator. Wonder what the poor members of your constituency who need more social services have to say about that?

	08-12-2003 21:41									#135
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP I agree. We should exterminate every cell of this virus, one by one. You start.

Since you first proposed to exterminate humans, how about you begin with yourself? Would you sign an agreement to turn over all your net asset to me and then commit suicide?

	08-12-2003 23:33									#136
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hes proposing the guy that proposed the idea to start though Lord Merciless