06-12-2003 17:46									#1
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A bootleg of an upcoming Eminem song has lyrics about killing the president. The secret service is investigating.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Mus...rics/index.html

	06-12-2003 17:51									#2
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The guy will do anything for publicity.

Of course, the danger is not him killing the president, but him failing to do so but, that someone would do it, because he was "inspired".

	06-12-2003 17:55									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel The guy will do anything for publicity. Of course, the danger is not him killing the president, but him failing to do so but, that someone would do it, because he was "inspired".

That's the thing. You could have some disturbed fan that tries to shoot Bush because he wants to emulate the lyrics or something.

This sort of investigation is very routine precisely because of this sort of scenario.

	06-12-2003 18:02									#4
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Anyone who would wish to shoot President Bush and allow Cheney to become president must be god damn insane.

	06-12-2003 18:51									#6
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quote: That's the thing. You could have some disturbed fan that tries to shoot Bush because he wants to emulate the lyrics or something.

If he's disturbed, he's going to **** up somewhere along the line, sooner or later, anyways. Besides, we already have documentaries about every past Presidential assassination, and nothing has arisen out of them. What's your point?

	06-12-2003 19:34									#7
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell If he's disturbed, he's going to **** up somewhere along the line, sooner or later, anyways. Besides, we already have documentaries about every past Presidential assassination, and nothing has arisen out of them. What's your point?

What's your point? We shouldn't care if someone tries to kill the president?

I know the Left would secretly love if someone took out Bush. I for one, do not want any harm to come to my president!

	06-12-2003 19:35									#8
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Yeah, cuz so many derranged fans do what song lyrics tell them to do.

	06-12-2003 20:04									#9
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Yeah, cuz so many derranged fans do what song lyrics tell them to do.

Apparently so; I mean, look what Marilyn Manson and the makers of DOOM did to the city of Columbine?

	06-12-2003 21:01									#10
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quote: "(Expletive) money, I don't rap for dead presidents. I'd rather see the president dead."

Note there is no threat to kill the president--merely a statement that he'd rather see the president dead than be a sell-out (too late?). And, technically, he doesn't specify any particular president by name or country.

I don't see any cause for hysteria--free speech and all that. I'd rather see the president dead than 1 million children dead. Is that a threat?

The paranoia of the Right is amazing.

	06-12-2003 21:36									#11
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quote: I know the Left would secretly love if someone took out Bush. I for one, do not want any harm to come to my president!

i know the right has neither the intellectual integrity nor the political courage to see the left as something other than a monolithic opposition to some of bush's policies.

quote: Apparently so; I mean, look what Marilyn Manson and the makers of DOOM did to the city of Columbine?

so it's easier to blame those who made something which may have influenced those that committed the crime instead of those who actually committed it? marilyn manson has hordes of fans whose only crime is that they listen to such shitty music (i will admit, though, i like his rendition of tainted love far better than the original). as for doom... most everyone in my generation played it. most of the out of millions of us, less 1 percent engaged in such behavior. school violence on the whole has gone down, barring a few high-profile incidents.
while we're at it, let's blame everyone except dylan klebold and eric harris.

	06-12-2003 21:37									#12
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AZ - Who IS that in your avatar???

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	06-12-2003 21:38									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed so it's easier to blame those who made something which may have influenced those that committed the crime instead of those who actually committed it? marilyn manson has hordes of fans whose only crime is that they listen to such shitty music (i will admit, though, i like his rendition of tainted love far better than the original). as for doom... most everyone in my generation played it. most of the out of millions of us, less 1 percent engaged in such behavior. school violence on the whole has gone down, barring a few high-profile incidents. while we're at it, let's blame everyone except dylan klebold and eric harris.

I was poking fun at the concept that movies, games, and albums cause kids to shoot up schools etc.

	06-12-2003 21:57									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka AZ - Who IS that in your avatar???

Louise Nurding.

who's the dude on the attached pic?

	06-12-2003 22:00									#15
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'k. it's just i've heard people who are serious about that far too many times.

	06-12-2003 22:09									#16
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I'm sure with all the rabid hatred of President Bush that exists among the left and the rest of the world it'll take a white rapper out of Detroit to put the idea of assassination into their heads.

I can just picture it, Al Queida kills the president and Eminem gets in trouble for it.

	06-12-2003 22:13									#17
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Eminem deserves what he gets. Talking about killing the president is something you just don't do.

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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Eminem deserves what he gets. Talking about killing the president is something you just don't do.

Err... and what exactly are YOU talking about in that post?

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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP I'm sure with all the rabid hatred of President Bush that exists among the left and the rest of the world it'll take a white rapper out of Detroit to put the idea of assassination into their heads. I can just picture it, Al Queida kills the president and Eminem gets in trouble for it.

oh, and btw, I am against killing president bush.

	06-12-2003 23:08									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel who's the dude on the attached pic?

You get one guess

	06-12-2003 23:14									#21
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you? if so, that's an awful T-shirt.

	06-12-2003 23:23									#22
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Well no. I'll give you a hint - he grew out of that t-shirt and into whatever "thug" **** the market currently vomits out, to eventually control the white suburbia masses of angry rap youth.

	06-12-2003 23:26									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Eminem deserves what he gets. Talking about killing the president is something you just don't do.

Where did he talk about killing the president?

	06-12-2003 23:53									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka Well no. I'll give you a hint - he grew out of that t-shirt and into whatever "thug" **** the market currently vomits out, to eventually control the white suburbia masses of angry rap youth.

for shizzle ( ) I didn't recognize him!

	06-12-2003 23:53									#25
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It's fo' shizzle, white boy.

	06-12-2003 23:54									#26
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you almost killed me.

	06-12-2003 23:56									#27
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Now I recognize him. Much more intimidating then, than now.

	07-12-2003 01:52									#28
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How amusing... at the same time, extreme gay rights group Outrage are trying to have a Jamaican reggae star arrested because one of his songs has homophobic lyrics in it.

It's lovely seeing Bush and the gays hand in hand in fighting these monsters!

	07-12-2003 02:11									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Note there is no threat to kill the president--merely a statement that he'd rather see the president dead than be a sell-out (too late?). And, technically, he doesn't specify any particular president by name or country. I don't see any cause for hysteria--free speech and all that. I'd rather see the president dead than 1 million children dead. Is that a threat? The paranoia of the Right is amazing.

Actually, this is pretty routine, for ANY president. The Secret Service is very protective. Has nothing to do with the right or the left.

	07-12-2003 03:36									#30
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat What's your point? We shouldn't care if someone tries to kill the president?

1. No one tried to kill the President.
2. The lyrics that Boris so kindly provided didn't even mention killing the President.

quote: I know the Left would secretly love if someone took out Bush. I for one, do not want any harm to come to my president!

I don't know whether to call it extreme paranoia or a troll. Why do you even risk go outside? You know as soon as you step out the door a Negro is going to stab you in celebration of being elected head of the local Socialist Commie-Nazi Club.

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