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I always wondered why the Argentinians did not simply send the entire British fleet to the bottom. This explains why.
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CerberusIV
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Perhaps he would also like to ask G W Bush and also Putin for apologies for all the US and Soviet warships that have ever been within 200 miles of the Argentinian coast with nuclear weapons on board?
Perhaps not.
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CerberusIV
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf
I don't know if the Argentinians had a sub force. They probably didn't, considering the Brits never intended to use the depth charges anyway. From what I understand, taking them off the ships would delay the campaign too much. |
The Royal Navy were actually quite worried at the time about a couple of the Argentinian subs which were relatively modern european built vessels and much quieter than the Soviet subs the RN ships were designed to hunt.
Even so, it is pretty unlikely they would have used these weapons, they were really envisaged for use against Soviet missile subs in a conflict that had gone tactical nuclear anyway.
The Cabinet did IIRC fairly rapidly discard the option of nuking Buenos Aires with a Polaris missile after the war started.
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Cruddy
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse
WTF are nuclear depth charges? Are they what they sound like (nukes to blow up subs)? |
A depth charge with a nuclear warhead. Effectiveness of a depth charge is proportional to the warhead yield - put a nuke on it and it's effective for miles, depending on the depth of detonation.
Although nuclear weapons are routinely carried by many US, UK, Russian, French and Chinese vessels, they are not armed unless a "nuclear release" order is received down the chain of command.
There was quite a fuss a few years ago when a couple of them accidently dropped off a truck en route from the naval arsenal to the docks. As it was on a major highway it didn't half cause a traffic jam, not to mention a certain amount of panic.
As for the Argentinians not having subs, I'm pretty sure one was damaged and captured within striking distance of Ascencion Island. It couldn't have been that far away as the hull was punctured by Sea Skua's fired from a Navy Lynx, not at all a long range weapon.
So, this General want's an apology, but doesn't offer one for causing death, hardship, and a bloody great defence bill? He can go boil his backside.
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I hope Gerar's trolling. I mean, the US has been on the brink of pushing the world into endless chaos for upwards of 50 years now, and we always laugh it all off.
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Unspeakable Horror
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Actually, itīs not just an apology what they want, but to know if some of those nukes went down with the Sheffield or some of the other ships IIRC, they said that the nukes were transfered at some point before arriving to Malvinas. What they they are worried about is possible contamination, they are our islands after all.
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CerberusIV
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I wouldn't worry too much about leftover nukes. If they are salvageable the Royal Navy has had 20 years to quietly recover them. If they are in deep water, there are enough lost nuclear subs and warheads scattered around the world's oceans that will pollute everywhere if they leak a few more won't really make any difference.
This still sounds like a politician trying to score a few points with the electorate.
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