09-12-2003 11:03									#1
	Fallout 3 is dead :( Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/bo...&threadid=45846

quote: More bad news at Black Isle Studios, where lead designer J.E. Sawyer resigned just last month (story), as Farewell, but not goodbye on the Interplay Entertainment Forums (thanks Nels Nelson) is a post from Damien "Puuk" Foletto that indicates that the studio is now shut down, referring to today as his "last day at the (former) BIS." This follows suit with a note sent along by designer John Deiley: Today marks the end of an era. Black Isle Studios is no more. In yet another sweeping layoff of employees, Interplay has officially let go the last of it's Black Isle employees (save two that I know of) and dissolved the division. Also, the non-announced title that the division was working on, Fallout 3, has been "shelved" to quote management.

That sucks .

	09-12-2003 11:38									#2
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wow

	09-12-2003 13:09									#3
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*Whispers* - another thread beat you to it mate.

It sucks doesn't it.

-Jam

	09-12-2003 14:18									#4
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this deserves another

	09-12-2003 14:47									#5
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Interplay has the rights to the game. If the BI guys hop on to, say, Troika, Interplay could contract them to finish the game... don't think it's likely though, but there's always a possibility. Certainly even Interplay's marketroids realise the potential. Then again, with DX:IW, I'm seriously starting to lose my faith in sequels.

	09-12-2003 23:57									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Interplay has the rights to the game. If the BI guys hop on to, say, Troika, Interplay could contract them to finish the game... don't think it's likely though, but there's always a possibility. Certainly even Interplay's marketroids realise the potential. Then again, with DX:IW, I'm seriously starting to lose my faith in sequels.

see the other thread - The BI guys are at a startup called obsidian, and are working on a new project with Bioware. Doesnt seem like theyre working with Interplay though.

	10-12-2003 00:26									#9
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sorry, Imran...

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=103632

	10-12-2003 00:29									#10
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i have to admit, though, that the subject in your thread is much more clear than mine...

	10-12-2003 00:56									#11
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better dead than released as a pos. I'm looking at you MoO3.

	10-12-2003 01:30									#12
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It will be made, since it is an amazing title. This simply means it'll be made in a decade or so.

	10-12-2003 02:58									#13
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Dunno, they plot it and kill it with appalling regularity. All that work building a new engine (Jefferson) and now Van Buren completely wasted so that they can finance a couple more crap console games. Give it a year and all that work will have to be repeated from scratch. Bah. I hope IPLY suits have permanent indigestion. They deserve it

	10-12-2003 03:07									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Grumbold Dunno, they plot it and kill it with appalling regularity. All that work building a new engine (Jefferson) and now Van Buren completely wasted so that they can finance a couple more crap console games. Give it a year and all that work will have to be repeated from scratch. Bah. I hope IPLY suits have permanent indigestion. They deserve it

they sank Van Buren? Maybe they should call the console games Tippecanoe and Tyler, too.

	10-12-2003 05:39									#15
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quote: All that work building a new engine (Jefferson) and now Van Buren completely wasted so that they can finance a couple more crap console games.

Damn console games... they can't hold a candle to Fallout!

	10-12-2003 09:51									#16
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I blame consoles for everything.

I am going on a crusade to destroy consoles now. I am going to smash every console I find with a big hammer. even if I have to smash 100 million of them.

	10-12-2003 10:21									#17
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I blame consoles too; especially for Deus Ex: IW.

	11-12-2003 00:52									#18
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CONSOLES ARE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!!

	11-12-2003 00:58									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Alex CONSOLES ARE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!!

So they are! How should we get rid of them?

	11-12-2003 08:40									#20
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I bought Fallout 1&2 in a bargain bin. Such terrible games. The ideas were good but the programming/interface were awful. I worked so long to build up a hand to hand fighter and my reward was constant critical hits for 1 point of damage.

	11-12-2003 10:11									#21
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hmmm, were you using power fists? or any of the other punch/kick moves such as haymaker or snap kick?

	11-12-2003 13:01									#22
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Bah, how can ANYONE say Fallout 1 & 2 were bad games? They are pinnicle of role playing!

	12-12-2003 05:34									#23
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I personally couldn't get past the isometric view on it. I'm spoiled when it comes to RPGs (SS2, Morrowind, DX).

	12-12-2003 05:38									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Tis I hmmm, were you using power fists? or any of the other punch/kick moves such as haymaker or snap kick?

Ah, the fond memories... The first time I ever played Fallout, for some reason, I refused to use guns for a while... But I trained up so much in martial arts, that one kick would rip my opponents apart! That was something.

	12-12-2003 13:54									#26
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This is obviously fake.: humans don't hold miniguns like that.

	12-12-2003 23:14									#27
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quote: I personally couldn't get past the isometric view on it.

That's a silly reason not to like a game .

	13-12-2003 01:36									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I personally couldn't get past the isometric view on it. That's a silly reason not to like a game .

How do you figure its silly? I didn't like the isometric view (gameplay). Its a big part of the graphics scheme.

But like I said- most of the other RPGs I've played were FPS or 3rd-person 3d hybrids.

	13-12-2003 03:37									#29
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quote: How do you figure its silly? I didn't like the isometric view (gameplay). Its a big part of the graphics scheme.

Not liking a game because of its graphics scheme is, IMO, silly. That'd be like hating Civ2 because the graphics sucked for its time (and they did). I play for the gameplay. The graphics are just extra.

	13-12-2003 13:37									#30
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I think it's a legitimate reason not to like a game.

I suppose if you grew up on new 3d Games and never played the older games, you might not like them. Fallout is a little bit dated now. But for their time those types of 3rd person views were standard.

And there was nothing wrong with Civ2 graphics when the game came out. Compared to other games of its genre, the graphics were accpetable. Sure they couldn't compare to the graphics of Doom, but it's a completely different type of game.

And that screenshot above is supposed to be real. Check out the Interplay boards.