17-05-2001 03:50									#1
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For anyone wishing to make a fall Gelb scenario oneday, let me hereby reveal my fleet of Dutch airplanes.



My grandfather used to fly in the first of these, the C-X.

I'm not sure why my sources of pictures sometimes have a red triangle as its insignia, and sometimes the regular weapon of the Dutch Airforce. It appears that during May itself, the red triangle was always used, while the other one was used before the war and after.

This excellent page (in Dutch) (with even some parts taken from my grandfather's book on the subject) is nice if you wish more information.
http://huizen.dds.nl/~godenhal/

Of course, these units are heavily built on Captain Nemo's units, as anyone can see, with various parts copied from different aircrafts. It's almost so much copied that I am ashamed to put my own signature under it..
[This message has been edited by Allard HS (edited May 16, 2001).]

	17-05-2001 04:40									#2
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Nice, but that's not what you should do.
-Maciej

	17-05-2001 05:07									#3
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Hey, Maciej, is that you? What a strange name, Heresson.

	17-05-2001 10:27									#4
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Allard, whats the 2nd plane from the right? It looks a lot like a Lockhead Hudson - was it a Dutch version built under licence?

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	17-05-2001 16:57									#5
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No, it was purely a dutch design, as far as I can see.

Here's a little piece about the T-5, taken from this homepage:

"The T-5 was the main bombertype of the airforce in the war. The aircraft had a mixed construction of steel, wood and steel tubing, with a facric skin. Power was provided by two Bristol Pegasus XXVI radial engines. The aircraft was intentially designed as an aircraft of the fightercruizer configuration in 1933-34 by the Fokker design team, which was lead by ir. Beeling, who also designed the G-1 and the T-9 prototype."

I just found that page. It's excellent and in English. I also found out there why the red/orange triangle was used instead of the normal airforce insignia. That was because when we were still neutral, a Dutch airplane was shot at once, and the German gave the excuse that our insignia looked too similar to the British and French ones. So, to remain neutral, we changed it to that stupid triangle, apparently.

	18-05-2001 04:08									#6
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Makes me wish a hard drive crash hadn`t wiped my WW2: The Netherlands scenario I was working on. I could have used these units to good effect.

	20-05-2001 22:11									#7
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Need more! We need some good WWI era Fokker and Sopwith planes. The Nieustadt, DR-I, DR-II, Sopwith Camel, Snipe, etc...