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http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/...e.ap/index.html

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That's crazy!

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I can stop light too.

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Could anyone give us more insight into this?

Oh, and notice that the scientist is a former soviet scientist.

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Couldn't possibly be, Azazel. Everyone knows that Soviet scientists couldn't do anything right.

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Couldn't possibly be, Azazel. Everyone knows that Soviet scientists couldn't do anything right.


Sure they could, but only the Former Nazi ones.

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he must be old, to be a former nazi, and all that.

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I can stop light too - by clicking off the switch.

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This is from early last year

Researchers in the United States and Korea have brought light to a complete standstill in a crystal. The pulse is effectively held within the solid, ready to be released at a later stage.

This trick could be used to store information in a quantum computer1.

Normal computers store information in simple binary form (1's and 0's) in electronic and magnetic devices. Stationary light pulses can encode information in more sophisticated ways that use the laws of quantum mechanics, making information processing more powerful.

Light moves at 186,000 miles per second through empty space, and was first stopped in its tracks at the beginning of last year. In those experiment, a vapour of metal atoms was shown to act like molasses on a passing light beam2,3.

Now Philip Hemmer, of the Air Force Research Laboratory at Hanscom Air Force Base in Massachusetts, and his colleagues have halted light in a crystal of yttrium silicate containing a few atoms of the element praseodymium.

Light-stopping solids would be much easier to incorporate into faster, more powerful computers than extremely cold gases. So the advance could aid information technology in much the same way that solid-state diodes and transistors made electronics more compact and robust than it could be with vacuum tubes.

Light slows down very slightly when it passes into any substance from a vacuum. The greater the refractive index of the material, the slower the light becomes. To make laser light travel very slowly, researchers manipulate the way that light and matter interact in a substance.'

Hemmer's team use a second laser beam to excite atoms in a substance to new energy states. Light can be considered to propagate through a material by being sequentially absorbed and re-emitted by atoms. The second beam manipulates this process so that it becomes more and more difficult for the light to make the step from one atom to the next.

The second beam couples the light pulse to the atoms. When shackled to these heavy objects, the pulse slows down. If this coupling is strong enough, the pulse comes to rest and all its energy is transferred to the atoms.

A light pulse that is brought to a standstill is not destroyed. The atoms 'remember' it, so the pulse can be regenerated by changing the intensity of the coupling laser to allow the atoms to re-emit photons - the particles of which light is composed.

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Probably using the same techniques as the Russian scientist; manipulating refractive and absorbtion properties of solids to stop light when it hits a surface without absorbing it's energy. Strange, not a whole lot on the material science of this matter, but then it would be patentable.

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Got spare money?

Do you have anything that stops sound? I could use that on my GF sometimes.

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Wow -- that is interesting sh*t, Japher.

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I hope this can be used in the future to make lights that emit darkness

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Or cloaking devices

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How is this relevant to cloaking devices?

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Or cloaking devices


Geez -- you would find any imaginable way to get out of doing chores that your wife asks you to do, huh?

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It's a giant step in controlling light. They could bend it around the ships... Also, what are you actually seeing when you look at stuff? Light reflection, right? What if that light is absorbed completely - shadowman, what if that light is 100% refracted - invisibility.

MrFun - I already have a way to get out of chores; do them poorly the first time and she'll never ask you to do them again... Sacrificed my favorite shirt once, to get out laundry.

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You lazy bastard.

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Lazy? Maybe. But he is definately cunning.

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You have to be, women are devilishly cunning. If you don't play their game you will lose everything... including your dignity.

You gay people have it good

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MrFun - I already have a way to get out of chores; do them poorly the first time and she'll never ask you to do them again... Sacrificed my favorite shirt once, to get out laundry.


You lucky SOB!

I tried to do that! And you knwo what she told me!?!? Try it again, you'll get it someday.....


sigh...


Spec.

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We have it good???


If it's true that men have more communication problems than women, then gay men in relationships have it TWICE as bad as women in relationships with men.


And I won't even scare everyone by talking about the possible horrors of two lesbians in a relationship together, when they BOTH get PMS!!



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It's a giant step in controlling light. They could bend it around the ships... Also, what are you actually seeing when you look at stuff? Light reflection, right? What if that light is absorbed completely - shadowman, what if that light is 100% refracted - invisibility.

"Ugh, Jim, do you see that completely dark human figured shape over there"
"Yep. let's kill it".

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You do have to do SOME chores... I just hate laundry.

I fold
vacuum, mop
Cook Dinner, do the dishes
All the yard work

And that is all. Dusting, organizing, scrubing, window, bathroom, washing the dog etc... she does.

Doesn't seem fair, but it only takes me an hour to vacuum/mop (once a week), I am a better cook and quick at the sink, folding is done in front of the TV, and I like doing yard work (and has been raining for the past month so I haven't done a thing)...

She tried to get me to do laundry on top of this, so I f'd up threw a fit, and made a "compromize" that I would fold if she did the rest... She will sometimes fold anyway

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At least when men communicate they actually SAY something! Unlike women.

Her: "Uh, Jon, can you take the dog to the vet tomorrow?"

means: "Take off early from work, and spend $1000 on a shot the dog doesn't need for me, because your job is too easy."

That ain't communicating

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wait, are the actual photons moving slower? Or is it they are just 'bouncing' around so much they to get form point A to point B it takes longer? If it is the first (which i didnt think possible, 'c' being constant and all) then that would have HUGE implications. For the reletivity equations still to work, if c changes then either space or time would have to change to compensate! Just imagine what that could mean.... However i doubt the actual photons slow down.

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You have to be, women are devilishly cunning. If you don't play their game you will lose everything... including your dignity.

You gay people have it good


I'm not sure how dignified anyone can be when they're on the receiving end of a penis.

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Fold? why bother...

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can I quote you on that?

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I'm not sure how dignified anyone can be when they're on the receiving end of a penis.


Sig. Material

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wait, are the actual photons moving slower? Or is it they are just 'bouncing' around so much they to get form point A to point B it takes longer? If it is the first (which i didnt think possible, 'c' being constant and all) then that would have HUGE implications. For the reletivity equations still to work, if c changes then either space or time would have to change to compensate! Just imagine what that could mean.... However i doubt the actual photons slow down.


I don't see what your getting at. The photons do slow and stop, the speed of c is related to energy and mass of the photon is not a necessary constant since light does slow when it enters media such as water, glass, and other transparent materials. You seem to forget E=mc^2. The material converts the E to hyperactive states in the materials to such a point that c is reduced... The energy of the light is maintained, absorbed... Light does stop, can be absorbed, and even destroyed (black holes).

The time dilation probably does occur. Other experiments in this included pions and muons. The dilation would not be significant for us to notice as the slowing of time would occur from the stand point of the light particle and not of the material in which it is in.

Though I could be wrong.

 
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