12-12-2003 17:02									#1
	Nostalgia Diplomacy Fall 2006 Results and Explanations Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Retreats due ASAP, builds/disbands due 10:30 Sunday EST

UK (*EndIsForever*) (2 disbands)
F Lap-NWG
F MAO-NAO
A Yor-Nwy
F NTH C A Yor-Nwy
A Lon-Pic
F ENG C A Lon-Pic
F Bel S A Lon-Pic
F Hol S F Bel (support cut)
F Ham-BHM (move fails, unit dislodged and can retreat to Hel or OTB)
F Swe S F Ham-BHM (support cut)
A Den-Swe (move fails)

Germany (Orange) (1 disband)
F Pic - Bel (unit dislodged, can retreat to Bri or OTB)
F Bhm - Den (move fails)
A Ruhr - Hol (move fails)
A Fra S A Ber - Ham
A Ber - Ham

Russia (chegitz guevara) (3 builds)
F BRN - LAP
A MUR S F BRN - LAP
A FIN - SWE (movef fails)
A LAT - LIT
A PRU - WAR
A BIE S A PRU - WAR
A WAR - KRA
F ROS H


Spain (Frozzy) (1 disband)
F Nav -> Bis
A Por S Mad -> Nav
A And -> Bar
A Mad -> Nav (move fails)
F SoG -> Mor (move fails)
F GoL -> Mar (move fails)
A Mon S GoL -> Mar (support cut, unit dislodged can retreat to Lig or OTB)

France (SnowFire) (1 build)
A Mar-Mon
A Pie S A Mar-Mon
A Swi-Mar (move fails)
A Auv S F Bor-Nav
F Bor-Nav (move fails)

Italy (Imran) (1 build)
F (Nap) S A (Rom) (support cut, unit dislodged and destroyed)
A (Rom) S F (Nap)
A (Ven) S A (Rom)
A (Aus) S A (Hun) - Cro
A (Hun) - Cro

Egypt (GePap) (0 builds)
F Apu->Nap
F Mal support F Apu->Nap
F Tys support F Apu->Nap
A Ale->Apu
F Lbs convoy A Ale->Apu
F Ion convoy A Ale->Apu
A Tun -> Alg
A Wsa->Mor (move fails)

Poland (ShiHuangdi, mercy position player par excellance) (0 disbands)
A LIT -> GDA
A KRA - CZE

Turkey (Vlad) (0 builds if the retreating unit retreats to Bos, 1 build if it

disbandds)
TA Pod S RA War-->Kra
TA Rum-->Hun
TA Ser S TA Rum-->Hun
TA Cro-->Aus (unit dislodged, can retreat to Bos or OTB)
TF Alb-->Adr
TF Gre-->Alb
TF Ist-->Gre
TA Bul S TA Ser
TF Ode H
TF Sev H
TA Ada H

Why Nobody Deserves to Win:

Spain: Well there was that badly-bungled stab of France. Of course there's the fact that he couldn't have foreseen the German withdrawl from the French front, but the British fleet was looming near German centers...

Russia: Russia's vengeful bloody-mindedness will be his undoing, just wait and see.

Poland: He's Poland, come on!

Britian: He pushed the war against Russia a bit too long and didn't hit the Germans early enough. Of course he couldn't have forseen the German stab on Poland that strengthened the Russians so much, but if he worked with France against Germany earlier on, the Krauts would be pretty much dead now.

Italy: Early game belligerance (he bounced with three countries in the first year and then got the Turks after him soon after) has kept him on the defensive the whole game, should have worked harder to get an ally early on.

Turkey: Newbies shouldn't win, dammit

Germany: Moved his forces EAST after the Brits stabbed him.

France and Egypt: Actually they haven't made any large decisions that haven't proven justified.

Last edited by Bosh on 13-12-2003 at 04:59

	12-12-2003 17:03									#2
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and map

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	12-12-2003 19:52									#3
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First. on the map: Fleet in Rome, not army, fleet.

Also, I am surprised at Spain's new eastern european holdings (green, not yellow)

Also, I am glad to see the great wisdom of the Egyptian government has been recognized after much prior malignment

	12-12-2003 19:54									#4
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Oh, and certainly, it seems only Egypt or France deserve to win...I will do my utmost to make sure the undeserving don;t win (though the bias towards newbies is quite disturbing )

	12-12-2003 20:34									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko Britian: He pushed the war against Russia a bit too long. . . .

Yes, yes he did. I was willing to concede Scandinavia to him, but no, he had to attack Murmansk and help the Poles.

And hey, my vengeful bloody-mindedness hasn't failed me yet, except when Ukraine stabbed me in the back.

	12-12-2003 20:39									#6
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Pravda!
President Vladimir Putin today congratualated Germany for restoring its territorial integrity. "The English pirates have been driven from the German homeland. Soon the sound of English will be heard no more on Europa's great shores."

Mean while, the Polish aggressors have been driven out of the CIS and are surrounded. The last Polish stronghold is expected to fall shortly, though holdouts have seized control in Prague, from the Italians.

Russia sends thanks to the government of Turkey for their assistence in difficult times, and vows to come to her aid when necessary.

	12-12-2003 23:36									#7
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Retreat to Bri

	13-12-2003 00:43									#8
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Already sent, but might as well get a +1 for it.

TA Cro retreats to Bos. (In other news, General Abdul the Bee is now Abdul the Half-Bee.)

	13-12-2003 01:19									#9
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F Mon retreats OTB

	13-12-2003 04:58									#10
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retreats:
Spain OTB
Turkey to Bos
UK to Hel
Germany to Bri

This means I need disbands/builds from: UK, Russia, France and Italy (bit of a no-brainer).

updated map:

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	13-12-2003 05:09									#11
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Good thing France has a build, or England could seize Paris.

	14-12-2003 20:16									#12
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Build sent via PM, with 10 minutes to spare.

And the Spanish dogs knew exactly what they were getting themselves into before, right in Spring 2001.

	15-12-2003 01:29									#13
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Boshko, did you run out of green electrons for your map?

	15-12-2003 08:08									#14
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d'oh! turkey gets a build. results delayed slightly.

*smacks head into wall repeatedly*

	15-12-2003 08:56									#15
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Hey, I only moved east because I thought Britain wouldn't be stupid enough to come after me when Russia was going to destroy him in Skans. Oh well, he paid for it this turn didn't he?!

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Not really, Mur was indefensible and Bel and Hol are still in his hands.

	16-12-2003 01:18									#17
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For now.

	16-12-2003 02:50									#18
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What are all you undeservers speaking about?

As the squirrelman said, the wisdom of the cairo government is now apparent to all.

	16-12-2003 19:28									#19
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Egypt is the scrotum of the Turkish *****.

	16-12-2003 22:40									#20
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The Russian bear speak loudly, for one unable to finish of the Poles!

	17-12-2003 01:01									#21
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quote: Not really, Mur was indefensible and Bel and Hol are still in his hands.

This really is bullshit...Mur was absolutely defensible, he just chose not to. He's going to lose a lot more than that before this is over, though, and what he'll get for his troubles is a Russia-Turkey or Russia-Turkey-Egypt combined victory

	17-12-2003 01:29									#22
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What he will get is Egyptian troops in the British Isles.

	17-12-2003 05:00									#23
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I think you're missing a factor that should be very obvious. It should manifest itself in a turn or two.

	18-12-2003 01:54									#24
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Yeah, I've been worring about that for sometime now.

	18-12-2003 02:24									#25
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Do tell. Cause Egypt in its wisdom has seeingly missed the obvious...

	18-12-2003 02:54									#26
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...why do I get the feeling this "factor that will manifest in a turn or two" won't happen as a result of my stupidity?

	18-12-2003 03:49									#27
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Well, we all love you just the way you are, Abdul..
well, not Italy, or the Ukraine, or Poland, or....

But Egypt does

	18-12-2003 05:39									#28
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Chegitz was given an opportunity to alleviate that factor and chose vengeance instead. It will probably cost him the game.

As for Germany, I'd do the same again; it was a case of quick growth versus committing my entire fleet for the sake of 2 gained SCs two years down the line. What I couldn't account for was some rather warped logic on the part of the Russian, but he will learn that later on.

	18-12-2003 20:24									#29
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Why is England concerned that I won't win?

Anyway, I don't believe in stabbing allies in the back. Once you get a reputation for doing that, you can never get rid of it, and then you can never get anyone to cooperate with you again.

	20-12-2003 08:23									#30
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and for that, my allegiance is with Russia. Viva Che!