12-12-2003 19:17									#1
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Here's a ray of hope for all of you ugly bastards out there. Looks don't matter to women nearly as much as you might think.

God, for a 39-year-old , she is f***ing hot!


Diana Krall marries Elvis Costello

	12-12-2003 19:21									#2
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You say that as if 39 is old, you little fart.

	12-12-2003 19:32									#3
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No doubt, that's the prime of life! Heck, Im 33 and in better shape than when I was 19.

	12-12-2003 19:53									#4
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I'm 34. My point was that women age worse than men and she appears to have held up really well. At 39, usually there are visible signs that begin to show a women is falling apart. She not only looks really good for her age but she has a great voice too.

	12-12-2003 19:54									#5
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That's BS. Women age just as well as men, men are just not criticized for aging at all.

	12-12-2003 19:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara That's BS. Women age just as well as men, men are just not criticized for aging at all.

Spoken like a true woman.

	12-12-2003 19:58									#7
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 I'm 34. My point was that women age worse than men and she appears to have held up really well.

It's not that women age worse than men, it's society's perceptions of aging between the genders that's the real difference. Just look at the way hollywood casts men and women who are in their 40's.

	12-12-2003 20:01									#8
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Does Hollywood cast women in their 40s?



Yes, out the window!

	12-12-2003 20:02									#9
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 Spoken like a true woman.

Is that supposed to be an insult? Will your sexism never end!?!

	12-12-2003 20:14									#10
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There are some women that look great in their 40s. But generally, men age less.

	12-12-2003 20:15									#11
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 Here's a ray of hope for all of you ugly bastards out there.....

who have gobs and gobs of money....

	12-12-2003 20:16									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel There are some women that look great in their 40s. But generally, men age less.

My bathroom mirror disagrees with you...

	12-12-2003 20:18									#13
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Have I mentioned just how much I love that Betty Page icon, Heuij? You're my favorite poster for that alone.

	12-12-2003 20:20									#14
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Thanks...

I'm surprised that there are still people who know who she is

	12-12-2003 20:52									#15
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I guess his aim was true.

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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay It's not that women age worse than men, it's society's perceptions of aging between the genders that's the real difference.

Well, I am a member of this society and this makes perfect sense to me that women age worse than men. Why should I fight against this particular point of view? This model works for all modern societies.

When I say "age worse", I mean that age impacts a woman's attractiveness more than it does a man's attractiveness.

Do you deny that men remain attractive to women much longer than women remain attractive to men? Not only in America but in other countries as well? I mean, sheesh, look at her. She's gorgeous and she's marrying this ugly guy 10 years older than her (sorry EC, you are one of my favorite artists, but it's the truth).

What makes men attractive to women is power (ability to support, fertility), prestige (social status), appearance (genetics).

What makes women attractive to men is physical appearance(sex), fertility(babies), family skills (being a mother, wife, etc).

So, can you see my point now that "women age worse than men"?

	12-12-2003 21:13									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij My bathroom mirror disagrees with you...

I said 'less' not 'not at all'.

	12-12-2003 21:22									#18
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quote: Well, I am a member of this society and this makes perfect sense to me that women age worse than men. Why should I fight against this particular point of view? This model works for all modern societies.

I'm no judge of what "works" in modern societies and what doesn't, but your ideas of what "works" plays on some major assumptions and stereotypes about what the respective genders consider attractive.

quote: Do you deny that men remain attractive to women much longer than women remain attractive to men? Not only in America but in other countries as well?

Yes. I do deny it. Because it excludes the endless variety of ways that people are attracted to one another and form relationships. Plenty of older women marry younger men. Plenty of wealthier women marry less wealthy men. The dynamics are constantly changing, and the criteria for once was considered "attractive" in your view is the exception, not the norm.