13-12-2003 19:00									#1
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Right I was under the impression that when a leader is made it can be moved into a city building a wonder and have the project completed in one turn.

I'm in a game at the moment where my leader has been moved into my capital to fast-build Leonardo's Workshop and it won't let me do it. There isn't an option to fast build. I tried to think back last time I did this and I'm pretty damn sure I could do it in PTW and normal civ3

	13-12-2003 19:03									#2
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What game are you playing?
Civ3,
PTW or
C3C?

	13-12-2003 19:05									#3
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c3c

	13-12-2003 19:08									#4
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In C3C militairy leaders can't rush (great) wonders, only scientific great leaders can.
However they can create armies and small wonders.

	14-12-2003 05:14									#5
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the upgrade from the old armies to the new demon armies from hell balances out the change, in my opinion

(i mean, the way they are now, i can't think of many times i'd want to waste an mgl on a wonder...)

* pauli goes back to planning how best to employ his halfdozen (and rising) ~18hp 48/32/4 minions...

	15-12-2003 12:07									#6
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also on the note on leaders, can i get rid of the units in them, medieval infantry armies in the industrial age are the laughing stock of the world atm

	15-12-2003 15:16									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Phatphal also on the note on leaders, can i get rid of the units in them, medieval infantry armies in the industrial age are the laughing stock of the world atm

No, you can only disband the whole army for 100 shields or use them to garrison captured cities, there isn't much else to do with them.

	15-12-2003 16:27									#8
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well, if you've got the academy, 3xmed is still going to be 7/3/2, which is fine to send out pillaging. get the pentagon, toss in an infantryman, and as long as he's the one acting, it'll be 10/14/2 - quite sufficient for taking and defending towns (or resources...)

	15-12-2003 17:38									#9
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shouldn't there be an upgrade function for the units in the army.

	15-12-2003 20:26									#10
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that was probably ommitted for gameplay issues. If you are militaristic civ, you could get quite a few armies going with the latest weapons...

I, for one, like the inability to upgrade units in the army. Pauli's suggestion is the best use for "old armies"

	15-12-2003 20:30									#11
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Agreed. Being able to upgrade the units in an army (particularly with the additional powers they have in C3C) would be horrifyingly unbalancing. And I say this as a fairly dedicated warmonger!!