15-12-2003 02:00									#1
	What do women really think about war? Support Apolyton

I have a lot of musing thoughts, so bear with me.

I was watching the movie- the Last Samurai. Yes I realize it is an overdramitized version of war in the 19th century. And I was interested in the performance by the widow in the story. Though her part was small.

But it got me thinking, why do women put up with men and their violent tendencies? Aren't they tired of men always going to war? I still don't understand why women don't rise up and overthrow the male rule. Sure men are physically stronger. But women can withold sex as they often do. Sure men can rape women, but most men prefer not to do that. They would prefer women submit to them.

How do women really feel about war? What are their thoughts about it? Why do they put up with such a violent society? Or does some part of them like war? Do they like the fact that men fight over them?

I'm not some peacenik who thinks we can create a peaceful society. I support the U.S. being warlike for the most part. I support violent video games. Because even if the U.S. became a peaceful nation, other powerful nations that oppose the U.S. would not. But if there were a way for the entire world to become peaceful, that would be a good thing. Would it not?

I really don't know much about women- obviously, so that's why I'm asking.

	15-12-2003 02:02									#2
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Well, necessity is the mother of all invention, and war is a damn efficient way to create necessity.

But that's not worth human lives.

	15-12-2003 02:29									#3
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I think women often select for men with more aggressive tendencies in the first place, and I think there's a reason for it. It's all about the survival of offspring. If you have a limited amount of resources and too much population, who do think is going to come out on top and have enough resources to provide for the women and children. It's going to be the person who's aggressive enough to take the resources and hurt/maim/kill whoever stands in there way.

Of course a single man isn't going to get away with this so they form bonds with other men and create hierarchies of allegience, call it an "army", and soon you have a couple of these armies going at each other to control the resources available and allow their families to prosper.

Honestly, I think the only way to prevent war is to reach a stable population sustainable by the resources available to us.

	15-12-2003 03:31									#4
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women wonder whats with men's obsession with phallic objects in war.

And their quest to make sword/bow/rocket/bullets bigger, longer, faster and stronger.

	15-12-2003 03:32									#5
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women like being fought over

Jon Miller

	15-12-2003 03:36									#6
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quote: I really don't know much about women- obviously, so that's why I'm asking.

Yeah they look a lot different then men... they have breasts and a different gential structure then men.... anything else I need to clear up?

	15-12-2003 03:39									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn Yeah they look a lot different then men... they have breasts and a different gential structure then men.... anything else I need to clear up?

theyre from venus

	15-12-2003 03:43									#8
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They want to f*** the winners, provide their weiners have not been blown off.

	15-12-2003 04:16									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn Yeah they look a lot different then men... they have breasts and a different gential structure then men.... anything else I need to clear up?

seeing as how you claim to be gay, I will not take your word for it.

	15-12-2003 04:18									#10
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First of all -- what particular group of women are you talking about??


And that's another thing -- how many American women are serving right now in Iraq??

	15-12-2003 04:20									#11
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not that many.

Many women in the military do not join to "fight"

	15-12-2003 15:47									#12
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Diss - your thread title is two words too long.

A man finds a bottle and uncorks it. A genie pops out.

Genie: Thanks, it was really cramped in there. I'll give you a wish, what would you like.

Man: A holiday in Hawaii.

Genie: Here's a plane ticket, it's all arranged.

Man: That's no good, I'm afraid of flying.

Genie: OK, here's a boat ticket.

Man: I can't use that either, I'm afraid of drowning.

Genie: Well, how am I supposed to get you to Hawaii then?

Man: Could you build a freeway so I can drive there?

Genie: That's a big job. Is there something you would like instead?

Man: To understand how a womans mind works.

Genie: How many lanes wide do you want this freeway?

	15-12-2003 18:30									#13
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I'd say if women were the world rulers instead of men we would have far more war. Could you imagine what would happen if the President of the US (being female) broke a nail while giving a speech and the Prime Minister of the UK laughed at it? All hell would break loose!

And could you imagine what they would do to our video games!? I shudder to think of it.

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You will have to ask all 3B

	15-12-2003 19:45									#15
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Women might not be so overtly violent, but they are a hell of alot more coniving. You would see alot more assasinations, kidnapping, and sabotage. And hense alot more wars. The real differance if woman rule the world: Liek most female vs. female arguements, we would be fighting for nothing

Womans rights is a direct result of woman convincing men it is in our best interests to let them be liberated. If every man in the world suddenly decided different, well, then they woud be restored to their natural status.

-Pat

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you should be a limey then, that's your natural status

	15-12-2003 20:36									#17
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you're asking this question in the wrong forum.

	15-12-2003 22:03									#18
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well if war is a predominantly male pasttime, what is the female equivalent?

Also, what do gay men think about war?

	15-12-2003 22:05									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Aren't they tired of men always going to war? I still don't understand why women don't rise up and overthrow the male rule. Sure men are physically stronger. But women can withold sex as they often do. Sure men can rape women, but most men prefer not to do that. They would prefer women submit to them.

This is the story of Lysistrata, a Greek wife who organized a revolt of all women in a city at war. They refused sex until the men ended the war.

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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Also, what do gay men think about war?

Depends on the guy... a lot of think it is a bad idea... a lot think it is a good idea.... I think we should nuke everyone, but that is just me.

	15-12-2003 22:39									#21
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I think women are simply happy they don't have to carry a gun and blast peoples heads off

I'm happy I don't have to do this too btw

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quote: Originally posted by Thorn Depends on the guy... a lot of think it is a bad idea... a lot think it is a good idea.... I think we should nuke everyone, but that is just me.

I would like a real gay man to respond to this.

Mr. Fun? Boris?

	16-12-2003 12:19									#23
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Um, you do realize Thorn was probably joking -- and he is gay, is he not??


Anyway, if you want an example about my feelings towards war, I have no qualms with it, when I perceive it as being justified. For instance, with Bush's invasion of Iraq -- he made the right decision for the wrong reason.

Vietnam War -- in my opinion, that was never justified for United States to take over French colonial rule.

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own goal. so far, there's been no womenfolk providing their opinions. just a bunch of men.

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That seems to be the case with most threads here. I can't say I'm surprised.

	16-12-2003 12:40									#26
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Um, you do realize Thorn was probably joking -- and he is gay, is he not?? Anyway, if you want an example about my feelings towards war, I have no qualms with it, when I perceive it as being justified. For instance, with Bush's invasion of Iraq -- he made the right decision for the wrong reason. Vietnam War -- in my opinion, that was never justified for United States to take over French colonial rule.

Thorn is not gay. He just pretends to be gay for attention