18-12-2003 20:33									#1
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I'll explain. I'v heard that the US baseball team won't come to the Olympics because it... didn't qualify??? How can this be? I thought only Americans played baseball???!
Greece has destroyed all competiition in Europe, not that difficult because
a) noone plays it
b)we got the top Greek american players WHO ANSWERED THE CALL OF THE ANCESTRAL MOTHERLAND.


Anyway, how come US didn't qualify?

	18-12-2003 20:38									#2
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cuba, japan, korea, and several other countries have strong baseball traditions.

	18-12-2003 20:39									#3
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So you got disqualified by one of them, I pressume.

	18-12-2003 20:41									#4
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beats me, i don't follow olympic baseball.

	18-12-2003 20:42									#5
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yes it's kind of strange...

	18-12-2003 20:45									#6
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Actually we were eliminated by Mexico. Pathetic.

	18-12-2003 21:50									#7
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Our pros don't play, they must of picked some really bad college kids who only drank in mexico

	18-12-2003 22:01									#8
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Too much of the worm.

	18-12-2003 22:03									#9
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Greece has destroyed all competiition in Europe

The Dutch baseball team is the European Champion.

	18-12-2003 22:04									#10
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quote: I thought only Americans played baseball???!

Taiwanese teams always seem to beat American teams in the Little League World Series.

Personally, I would like to see a portion of the Big Leagues season be devoted to playing teams from other countries (besides the US and Canada). Either that or give at least Mexico City and Tokyo/Osaka a Big League franchise. As it stands now, all Seattle Mariners and New York Yankees (?) games are broadcast in Japan because they have some players on each. Very lucrative for Seattle and New York.

Oh, FYI, the olympics mean nothing with regard to top-tier baseball. It all comes down to the 162-game Big Leagues season.

	18-12-2003 22:04									#11
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Zopper
Really? I didn't know that.

What I only know is that in the games for the Olympics or something Greece was undefeated.

	18-12-2003 22:10									#12
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Taiwanese teams always seem to beat American teams in the Little League World Series. Personally, I would like to see a portion of the Big Leagues season be devoted to playing teams from other countries (besides the US and Canada). Either that or give at least Mexico City and Tokyo/Osaka a Big League franchise. As it stands now, all Seattle Mariners and New York Yankees (?) games are broadcast in Japan because they have some players on each. Very lucrative for Seattle and New York. Oh, FYI, the olympics mean nothing with regard to top-tier baseball. It all comes down to the 162-game Big Leagues season.

Strange that. I'd imagine they'd want to honour their country, if they could

	18-12-2003 22:13									#13
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Zopper Really? I didn't know that.

The Dutch team beat the Greek team 2-0 in the final.

	18-12-2003 22:14									#14
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They can honor their country through the Big Leagues. I am sure that Japan has pride that one of their players is in a key position on the starting roster of the world champion baseball team. I think Drake might have something to say about that, if he stops by this thread.

Anyway, anything other than a 162-game season would screw up the personal historic stats. Can't have that.

	18-12-2003 22:15									#15
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I see. Well as I said the only thing I've read about it was that there was a tournament before the Olympics and Greece was undefeated.

	18-12-2003 22:18									#16
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quote: Originally posted by DanS They can honor their country through the Big Leagues. I am sure that Japan has pride that one of their players is in a key position on the starting roster of the world champion baseball team. I think Drake might have something to say about that, if he stops by this thread.

You think that's the same?
Strange....

quote: Anyway, anything other than a 162-game season would screw up the personal historic stats. Can't have that.

So their personal stats are more important than simply giving a fight for their country.... Ok.

	18-12-2003 22:26									#17
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quote: So their personal stats are more important than simply giving a fight for their country..

Of course.

	18-12-2003 22:27									#18
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Not much respect for it then...?

	18-12-2003 22:29									#19
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Anyway baseball seems like a nice sport. Anything involving hitting things with a bat gets an initial glance I think.

	18-12-2003 22:32									#20
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Baseball is fun. Not to fast pace, easy to get tickets to a game, they are much more fun to attend than to watch on TV, makes a nice outing for a nice day, gives you a reason to drink and shout profanities...

	18-12-2003 22:32									#21
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Baseball just doesn't have a country-v-country tradition. Meanwhile, it has a strong individualistic tradition. At least in the US and Canada. Might be different in other places. Cuba, for instance.

	18-12-2003 22:40									#22
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All Cuban young males like baseball.
They even lie to make themselves younger.
Their biggest chance to get the hell out of Dodge.

	18-12-2003 22:41									#23
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Don't sweat it DanS. I'm just messing with you. You're not an exclusivity in this or anything.

	18-12-2003 22:42									#24
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand All Cuban young males like baseball. They even lie to make themselves younger. Their biggest chance to get the hell out of Dodge.

Kind of like Black kids with basketball in the US ghettos Sloww?

	18-12-2003 22:45									#25
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I am sure that Japan has pride that one of their players is in a key position on the starting roster of the world champion baseball team.

Which of the Marlins was Japanese?

	18-12-2003 22:46									#26
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quote: Don't sweat it DanS. I'm just messing with you. You're not an exclusivity in this or anything.

I'm not getting worked up over this. I think it's interesting too.

	18-12-2003 23:09									#27
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Kind of like Black kids with basketball in the US ghettos Sloww?

Pretty much, yeah.

	18-12-2003 23:19									#28
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quote: Which of the Marlins was Japanese?

My bad. Matsui wasn't in the Bigs in 2000. Well, they were pennant winners. I'm sure the Japanese can gain some pride in that.

Edit: Interesting fact. 75 million Japanese watched this year's World Series.

	19-12-2003 01:41									#29
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The reason the team was disqualfied was because it was bad. The reason it was bad is because, for the most part, the Olympics allow only amatuers, and in the US, the best baseball players (and most mediocre ones) are in Major League Baseball.

For some reason, professional basketball players (aka the Dream Team) were able to play in the 90s. I'm not sure if that is still the case.

	19-12-2003 01:43									#30
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The amatuer rule is an American rule, not an Olmypics rule, AFAIK