18-12-2003 22:09									#1
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Does not look good for IT people, especially since it seems that that's where everyone is going.

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	18-12-2003 22:13									#2
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And still, data-entry keyers and typists are grossly overestimated.

	18-12-2003 22:15									#3
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT And still, data-entry keyers and typists are grossly overestimated.

Yeah, I think telemarketers are too with the Do-Not-Call list.

	18-12-2003 22:25									#4
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Here's an abstract from the website . You have to be a member to view the whole report.

quote: Services automation apps expect rapid growth through 2008. The services automation apps market is crowded with more than 100 vendors intensely competing in the space. The competitive dynamics have triggered much-needed consolidation. Despite consolidation, vendors lack a clear view of the market opportunity. Will the services automation market generate $200 million or $2 billion in license revenues by 2008? Forrester expects rapid growth in services automation apps. New license revenues will exceed $300 million by 2004 and approach $400 million by 2008. Combined with maintenance revenues, the total market will grow to $820 million by 2008.

These apps are boosting productivity in the service sector.

	18-12-2003 23:21									#5
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Who needs typists if a basic requirement for being a professional is the ability to type?

The same thing applies to data entries. I have done this job before. It's boring and very susceptive to repetitive strain injury.

As for telemarketing jobs vanishing,

	19-12-2003 00:12									#6
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Fortunately I'll be retired by then.

	19-12-2003 00:17									#7
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Fortunately, I don't work in any of those fields, nor anything closely related to any of those fields

	19-12-2003 00:52									#8
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quote: Originally posted by rah Fortunately I'll be retired by then.

You're a typist?

	19-12-2003 04:25									#9
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What's a 'financial underwriter' ?

	19-12-2003 04:26									#10
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alva: duh, someone who underwrites finances... sheesh some people

	19-12-2003 04:29									#11
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Discouraging, but I can't help but wonder how many of those "lost jobs" are computer programmer/code monkeys affected by overshoring.

From what I've read, true software engineering positions are still on the rise, while the codemonkey/programming positions eventually get overshored.

I'm amazed that most financial/economics people don't seperate them into two different categories, it's like putting mechanics and mechanical engineers in the same category.

	19-12-2003 04:29									#12
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quote: Originally posted by alva What's a 'financial underwriter' ?

Those people making financial records.

Again hail to the telemarketing job losses!!!

	19-12-2003 04:44									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Discouraging, but I can't help but wonder how many of those "lost jobs" are computer programmer/code monkeys affected by overshoring. From what I've read, true software engineering positions are still on the rise, while the codemonkey/programming positions eventually get overshored. I'm amazed that most financial/economics people don't seperate them into two different categories, it's like putting mechanics and mechanical engineers in the same category.

exactly. someone like you or me would come up with an innovative concept, begin hashing it out, maybe write some code, and then pass it off to the indian codemonkeys who take only 10% of the pay Americans would.

woo for world trade and the exploitation of forigners!

	19-12-2003 05:17									#14
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I'm doing data entry work at the moment, I've also done telesales. Here in Sydney practically everyone who does these jobs appears to be a traveller.

So, what jobs for backpakkas when the market shrinks?!? Won't someone please think of the backpakkas!

	19-12-2003 05:23									#15
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quote: Originally posted by alva What's a 'financial underwriter' ?

Someone who donates or raises the funds for a project or venture. Or the people who insure the venture/project.

	19-12-2003 05:26									#16
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Backpakking should not be easy by nature. Be creative.

Besides in a couple you'll have money a plenty and care zilch about backpakkers, instead you will find yourself using words as 'longhaired good for nothin' scum' ' lazy bastards' ' foul smelling criminals' etc.