22-12-2003 07:52									#1
	Correlation between starting Terrain and Civ chosen? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

In Civilization 3 is there a correlation between the terrain you start out on and the civ chosen? Besides the seafaring one where there is a higher chance that you start next to water.

For instance are some civs more likely to start out on plains and floodlands, while others are more likely to start out with hills and grasslands?

	22-12-2003 08:55									#2
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Not so I can tell.

	24-12-2003 11:39									#3
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Seems random to me.

	24-12-2003 12:24									#4
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At first I thought that Agricultural civs start on rivers more often...but it turns out this was more likely due to my switch from a huge map to a standard map at the same time I decided to try the aggie civs. I'm thinking smaller worlds are more "dense" terrain-wise, so the likelihood of starting near or on a river increases. I could be wrong. But I switched back to huge with Maya and found I didn't start near freshwater at all several times in a row. I compromised and switched to a large map. Didn't start on a river, but another was close enough to found my second city on. Though my first few Warriors got eaten by a single lucky barbarian (argh!), I think I may well have a good game in store...

So I don't think traits, other than Seafaring, affect the kind of terrain you'll start on, but surprisingly map size (and, very unsurprisingly, other map settings ) might.

- Kef

	24-12-2003 12:24									#5
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Actually whenever there is a mongolian in game they always seem to be placed on or near plains
However,
The germans always seem to be on a jungle.
The british always get plenty of space for port areas to.
So I think there is a correlation cept for the germans.

	24-12-2003 17:04									#6
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As far as I can tell its all random. Except for the seafaring one of course.

The corelation you are seeing Archer is probably the same as when you always get those damn bad starts that make you want to start again. You know, the computer knows which civ is the human and so gives him a bad start alot of the time.

	24-12-2003 20:07									#7
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I think it's random. I have not experienced the same trends as Archer describes. I probably could list my own observed trends, but then it begs the question that multiple sets of different observations and responses is the definition of random?

Random.

	24-12-2003 20:45									#8
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I'm voting random -- seen too many jungle vikings and polar aztecs to think otherwise.

	25-12-2003 16:38									#9
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From what I have seen, it appears that jungle starts are more common than anything else, for ALL civs, even in arid worlds!

But then we all know how much we can trust THAT conclusion.