24-12-2003 10:32									#31
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx Name me any game that has ever come out without needing a patch. It's a part of the PC world. Beta is far better than waiting.

Far too true

But very appreciated

	24-12-2003 13:11									#32
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 OK first of all THANKS FIRAXIS, BREAKAWAY AND ATARI! Second I have some specific questions: 1. In MP games WITHOUT random Civs. Games that were started prepatch. Can you patch and still play those games? 2. In MP games WITH Random Civs. Games that were started prepatch. Can you patch and still play those games. Thanks!

OK - tonight I reloaded and played a 6 player (all humans) MP epic game that was saved pre-patch. We didn't notice any ill effects and it played fine.

Not sure I like the change to the Forbidden Palace, although my tech progression and cash flow (in industrial era) seemed to be similiar to what it was pre-patch.

	24-12-2003 13:13									#33
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..and what are you still doing up at 3am in the morning Mo?


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	24-12-2003 13:15									#34
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LOL Canuck! Ya like that beatin I put on ya with the Sipahis tonight?

Off to bed, now. Sweet Dreams!

	24-12-2003 20:53									#35
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Ah the other guys did all the work for ya anyway. :-)

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	29-12-2003 03:21									#36
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Why exactly is this patch called 'Beta' ?

(I don't suppose it is named after Beta from Apolyton )

	29-12-2003 04:00									#37
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simple: the community wanted a patch with the most important bugs fixed (some of us even begged for it!), but the changes hadn't passed the quality tests needed to release it as an official "full" patch.

so it was declared beta and released.

perfect for us, because we got what we wanted (thanks again to all involved) and good for the programmers and publishers, because we havn't got the right to whine about new bugs because beta doesn't promise stability

	29-12-2003 21:02									#38
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Has anyone found anything unstable yet?

	29-12-2003 21:45									#39
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Why exactly is this patch called 'Beta' ?

Because it wasn't sent to their (Atari's and Firaxis')testers yet to see if it works.

	30-12-2003 22:20									#40
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It was sent to the Atari testers (had 19 testers last Monday & Tuesday and a smaller team the 3 weeks before) but without full localizations, release installer, and my being confident that it deserves a release stamp, I'm going to continue to use Beta as a Warning Label for now.

	30-12-2003 23:08									#41
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i like that idea

	31-12-2003 19:36									#42
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For some reason, I can't download the patch. Server busy, etc. Could someone (a nice person ) with a cable moden, ISDN, or something like that send me the patch by e-mail? I'm asking too much, I know, but...
aroeira @ ism . com . br (eliminate all the spaces - I'm trying to scape from the spam robots... )

Thanks in advance

	31-12-2003 20:21									#43
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It's 14.7 MB. Can your mailbox handle that? (Can mine?)

	31-12-2003 21:22									#44
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster It's 14.7 MB. Can your mailbox handle that? (Can mine?)

Hi, BFM!
In my case, yes. I have a cable modem. In your case... In general, if you have a high-speed conection, your mailbox can handle it.
But I really can't tell... I don't want to crash your smtp provider or something.

	31-12-2003 22:08									#45
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aro, try different download locations. one is bound to have it
- the atari/infogrames location mentioned iin the first post
- http://apolyton.net/civ3
- http://civfanatics.com/

or several other places around the web

	31-12-2003 22:16									#46
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Thanks a lot, sabrewolf!

	02-01-2004 01:59									#47
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Forgive my ignorance, Jesse (or anyone else who knows), but why would I want to "switch between versions"; and WHAT versions? Doesn't this patch go right into the game, replacing those things that are flawed or whatever?

Why wouldn't I just download the patch and execute it, same as any other patch?

	02-01-2004 03:22									#48
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Yes many of us would do it that way. A few reasons exist for being able to switch. People in MP games where others don't have access to the patch. You have problems with the patch and do not want to continue to use, it is after all a beta.

	02-01-2004 18:22									#49
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Thanks vmxa1. I think I'll wait 'till January then.

	02-01-2004 18:22									#50
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Thanks vmxa1. I think I'll wait 'till the tested patch arrives.

	02-01-2004 18:50									#51
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myolde
no, don't worry, this so-called beta patch is perfectly alright and is a lot less buggy then the previous, not-beta version.

the only instability issue is selecting random civ for multiplayer.

i think i can speak for most if i recommend this patch...

btw: the next patch mid january will be beta too according to jesse smith (see about 10 posts above). the first official patch will also be the final one a will come out around Q2/2004...

EDIT: after seeing that the corruption bug is still around, this post may seem a bit too positive

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	04-01-2004 17:46									#52
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jesse,

the corruption bug seems to not have been fixed in every case (see uberkrux's and my bug not in the 1.12b buglist thread.

please incorporate this fix in the next patch (january?) as priority 1, as most other bugs are minor.

thanks for all your work!

	04-01-2004 18:00									#53
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Please see Dactyl's and my posts in the bug list for a not-so-minor complaint: disappearance of ability to build musketmen when we clearly have saltpeter source(s).

	10-02-2004 03:18									#54
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I just got the expansion today...wondering if i haveto d/l the offical patch and install them 1st before i install the beta patch?

	12-02-2004 00:18									#55
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The info here is misleading in some respects, since the new beta patch is standalone.

Everyone, if you are confused about the patches see:

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...threadid=106681

Just install Civ3, then Conquests, then the 1.15 patch for your language version.

	12-02-2004 02:15									#56
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They upgraded the 1.15 to be inclusive. When it first came out you had to have all of the previous patches.

	12-02-2004 02:21									#57
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Didn't I just say that?