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hmmmm.....even with 8 farmers u loose 164k pop. at least for me.
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ah. okies. had just a short look at the race stats, where cybernetic isnt mentioned....and tried to go for early ship techs....
....nevertheless there is some kind of soil bug there...u dont lose pop if u dont touch ur colony....
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Brussels
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time: 06:32
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It seems my memory really failed me, cause I made a mix of the 2 proposed races.
Well, here is the story, in 10 parts:
Part I: Genesis
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Gnolam are:
Feudal
Sci +2
Tax +1
Sh Off +20%
Lucky
Uncreative
Poor HW
Being uncreative our god has reload until ResLab and AutoFact were in our tech tree. For the rest, we will need to be smart or strong.
Stardate 3500.0: The fierce Gnolam people accept the ruling of Bortis 1st.
Our system consists of 3 planets:
Gnoll I: Small, Radiated, Rich (3)
Gnoll II: Med, Terran, Poor (12)
Gnoll III: Med, radiated, abund (4)
There is a Gas Giant on a 4th orbit.
Part II: Expansion
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Stardate 3508.4: Director Khunagg (Farm, Labor, tactics, Codo) joins
Stardate 3510.2: discover Pollution Processor
Stardate 351?.?: scouts discover only empty systems + one with a space dragon. We need to explore second ring systems
Stardate 3511.3: Produce our first colony ship
Stardate 3511.7: we reach Rebar, our first colony
Stardate 3512.3: Chug the planetologist (terraform) joins.
Stardate 3512.7: Cassandra (telepath train.) joins.
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Part V: War
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Stardate 3527.3: We were framed by ?, the Mrrshan break all treaties.
Stardate 3528.3: One Mrrshan BB is heading Gnoll (6 turns), our HW. We prepare 1BB (mass driver) and 2CL (missiles) to welcome them.
Stardate 3529.0: The ship is captured. We hope to disover the secrets of 3 possible unknown technologies: Shield III, Neutron blaster or Graviton beam. We scrap the ship and understand the neutron Blaster technology.
We build a second BB and arm her with neutron blaster, marine killers. We hope to capture more ships, because we see already 2 more in approach (2 and 4 turns away).
Stardate 3529.6: Second ship captured. We understand now Graviton beam. Unfortunately, the battle was hard (as was the armor of the ennemy ship). Our weapons were weak against HvyArmor. We lost our neutron Blaster BB and our missile CLs. Our glorious fleet consists now of 1 single BB.
Stardate 3529.7: 3rd BB captured. No tech understood. It seems we cannot understand shield tech by scrapping ships. This lesson will be reminded.
Stardate 3530.0: 4rth BB captured. We keep it.
... ?? no archive for some time ...
Part VI: Survival
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Stardate 3532.7: A fleet consisting in 9BB, 1CL, 1DD is in approach (4 turns). To meet them, we have 4BB, 3 CL.
Stardate 3533.1: The Battle for Homeworld. They win, having still 4 BBs alive. We could save (retreat) only 1 single BB. Our HomePlanet is bombed to the ground and we transfer our Capitol to Rebar.
The 4 wounded BBs change target and are expected in 3 turns at Draco. This give us the time to build a 2nd BB.
Stardate 3533.4: We meet at Draco. 4 vs 2. We win. Kill them all, lost one. Once again our fleet is reduced to 1BB.
Stardate 3534.1: 4 vs 4. We have 3 survivors, they: none.
Stardate 3534.?: We manage to exchange Shield III vs GalStockExch.
Stardate 3534.8: Fieras is now Elerian colony... good for us. We exch. Titan construction vs Android Workers.
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Part VII: Women
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Stardate 3535.5: 4BB, 2CL, 2DD, 1F 5 turns away. To meet: 8BB and our first Titan ... if we rush it ... we do.
Stardate 3536.0: They are destroyed, but we lost our TI and 3BB (they moved first). We captured 1BB and 1 CL. We scrap and discover Adamantium and Zeon mssls. We give Elerians Confed and got Phaser... PHASERS!!!! YES !!!! PHASER... YEEEEEEHA!
Stardate 3536.8: Elerians declare war...?!?!?!?
Stardate 3536.9: 2Ti, 5BB, 1CL, 1DD (Elerians) 3 turns away. 8BB (Mrrshan) 4 turns away. We have no archive of the results... but historians think it was victory.
Stardate 3538.2: Eler: 7Ti, 5BB (BeamAtt/BeamDef = 177/227), 1CL, 3DD and ... Loknar's ship . We have 6Ti, 7BB (195/160). With such numbers, if we stay, we are dead meat.
We kill 2BB and 3DD and retreat... we hope to have better odds with the help of the BattleStation... but no ... wait ... they do not attack... should we be happy or sad? They blocade...
Stardate 3538.3: What ?!?!? ... They are gone ... ?!?!?! Does anybody understand women ?!?!?!
Part VIII: Conquest
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Stardate 3538.6: Our spies got HyperDrive from Elerians.
Stardate 3538.8: Our spies got DeathRays from Elerians. We exchange them vs MolecComp from our last friends the Alkari.
Stardate 3539.3: We are now ready for offense vs Mrrshan, but we notice they have discovered RadiationShields. Anyway, with Phasors, it should be ok.
Stardate 3539.6: We head to Firma and expect RadShi + Shie V = defense of 10 on the planet.
Stardate 3539.7: 9 Trolls (230/150), 7 Ogres (245/170) , 13 transp. meet 3Ti, 2BB, BttlStat, MsslB, StellarC and FightG. The Ogres fire first: they take down the ships and the Station. The Trolls take care of the planet defenses.
Stardate 3539.9: Firma (3 planets) is all ours. Our first conquest.
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Brutalisk
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So, has it been done yet?
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Dry
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quote:
Originally posted by Brutalisk
So, has it been done yet? |
I didn't play any further.
I was the strongest and the most advanced.Despite the uncreative;
I had enough of the ship killer equipment/technology;
I had the warp dissipator and Star Gate;
the 2 really dangerous oponent (Elerians and Mrrshans) were on their knees.
The games wasn't fun anymore. It was only a question of time. I have considered it a victory.
If you want to have a look or to play it, here are some saved games until ~turn 340 (before the fall of Fieras).
EDIT: Not turn 340, turn 420!
 Attachment: moo2_dry.zip
This has been downloaded 5 time(s).
Last edited by Dry on 20-06-2004 at 02:42
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As whoha said, you have to go and scrap it at a starbase. Do not scrap it just "anywhere"...
Any techs that are on that ship that you don't have can become "potentially" yours. That applies to enemy ships as well.
One of the more "surreal" tactics is "heavy g" for exactly that purpose. It effectively "doubles" the strength of your troops giving u a good chance of capturing enemy ships...
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quote:
Originally posted by Brutalisk
As whoha said, you have to go and scrap it at a starbase. Do not scrap it just "anywhere"...
Any techs that are on that ship that you don't have can become "potentially" yours. That applies to enemy ships as well.
One of the more "surreal" tactics is "heavy g" for exactly that purpose. It effectively "doubles" the strength of your troops giving u a good chance of capturing enemy ships... |
Heh. so having Antarans attack on, during a multiplayer game with good players playing, can make a real change in the end game.
why cant they make more strategy games like this.
The fellas at Microprose are true geniuses. However I cannot believe that after the success MOO2 brought, they didn't independantly pursue moo3. Knowing it would've had the epic feel that Moo2 has and it lacks, they just let it slip through their fingers. realizing the success of moo2 though, I assume each and every single person on the development team has 750k+ in savings, so I suppose the motivation to make another hit like moo2 has faded.
If you add too many people to something, it will turn to **** in most cases. 50 talented people working for six months can produce the worst piece of **** you've ever seen. It's just like entertainment. First a guy gets a good idea. Then some guy on the set suggests a yellow backdrop would be better for a certain area, and then another person wants to add a bird here, and a theme song here, remove strategic combat...etc..and change the overall tone of the film subliminally.
Suddenly the great film idea becomes a piece of ****.
this is why stand up comedy is the best.
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quote:
Originally posted by vmxa1
Steve Barca made Moo1 and 2 at Simtex or whatever he called the place.
Microprose was long gone before MooIII got started. Steve also made another popular game called MoM. |
I grabbed an older microprose game today that alot of people I know liked, 'Magic :The Gathering'.
I played it a few years ago when I was in high school, but I remember disliking it. Boy was I a fool! Probably because I went straight to duel and didn't get a chance to see the world, char creation, etc.
Of course I was a bonehead then; the game rules now that I've taken 20-25 minutes to sit down and read all the cards, and get my ass kicked a few times. the art on some of those cards is great. (necro cards are interesting to say the least)
Only thing I don't like about the game is if I'm in a duel and get a bit stressed I'll click on something three or four times. seems to 'freeze', and I have to taskmanager out of it. really annoying when I'm about to win a 10 minute duel for a decent quest. also when I goto buy spells in a town, I'll see the gold price above the spell, but theres absolutely nothing to click on ..no 'buy' button or anything. back to the game.
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quote:
Originally posted by Brutalisk
The reasons are pretty "simple" and indicative of that is going on in the game-development world.. 
Microprose -> got bought/engulfed by Micro$oft and ocne they took whatever they wanted, everything else went down the drain
Simtex -> was a sub-division of microprose in many ways and had closed down due to financial difficulties at Microprose, even before Microprose got devoured itself...
Microprose is responsible for a lot of good games (remember civilization? 
But it seems that for a gaming company to stay afloat it either needs to be a team of just 5 people or a multi-million organisation.
Even Blizzard had got into trouble, despite the incredible games it produced. It survived thanks to the Koreans who rejuvenated Starcraft's popularity and sales...
So, I don't know what the f*ck all these companies are doing. Too many "financial leakages" perhaps...
Plus if a lot of money is put into a project/game and the project gets scrapped or the game doesn't succeed, that's a lot of money gone wasted.
At the moment, we have EA, Microsoft and Vivendi owning most of the gaming community The problem is, EA and M$ just keep (re-)making the same old - same old. (FIFA and Age of Moneymaking being their two prime examples).
You still have the occasional independent developers, usually german or russian it seems. So there's still hope |
pretty unfortunate, and yeah, the MS RTS's are shiesty compared to the older games such as MTGathering/xcom/moo2, innovative titles like these that set trends.
it's all about originality coming together properly and a good interface
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