23-07-2000 22:15									#1
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Game Status: In Progress
Current Wars: None
Significant Events: Borg Invasion of Klingon Space, 1 Cube
Current Date: January 15-29, 2370

This is my attempt to start a new story thread. I have been trying to start a Trek thread for some time now, but for some reason it has always stagnated, probably due to many other story threads. Fortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case right now, so maybe this'll do better.

Anyway, the time period is Deep Space 9 - or, for year purposes, about 2370-2375. The Wormhole has already been discovered, and there have been preliminary Fed-Dominion contacts, although no hostilities yet.

Basically, pick a race - any race in the Star Trek universe is open game - and have some fun. Note, though, that if you pick the Borg, you won't be invincible, and Species 8479 and the Q Continuum are not allowed.

There will be no official moderator, although if anyone gets out of line I'll handle the problem.

Everyone who wants to join claim your race, and we will start in a few days after everyone who wants to join has a race.

LIST OF RACES
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David Floyd - The United Federation of Planets
ScottF - The Romulan Star Empire
PolarisGL - Cardassians
Barbarossa - Dominion
hacksaw - Klingons
WarVoid - V'Ger type race
Shadowstrike - The Maquis

IMPORTANT LINKS
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http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~djc/sta...s.expanded.html

That is basically a listing of all ships known in the Star Trek Universe for the major players. I am personally using that as a partial reference for my reconstruction of Starfleet, and browsing through the Klingon section, it looks like it has a lot to offer for the other races as well. Check it out.
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	23-07-2000 22:21									#2
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The Romulan Star Empire

	23-07-2000 23:57									#3
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I'll take the Cardassians.

And how about we have the Borg come in through events and no one actually be them? Like we had for the Star Trek thing we made up before, David.

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	24-07-2000 01:45									#4
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Damn
I wanted the Borg....

Are there any other cybernetic/cyborg/robot races in Star Trek I could take?

	24-07-2000 02:44									#5
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I want the Dominion if it's allowed if not I will take the Federation.

	24-07-2000 05:55									#6
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Ill be the Klingons

	24-07-2000 08:00									#7
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Polaris, I think you are right about the Borg, they really would be too powerful.

WarVoid, if you are into writing stories and things like that, you could be Lor (Data's brother) and stir up trouble. Or if you were really creative, I might allow you to develop your own cybernetic-type race, as long as it is in the Gamma Quadrant and thus explainable.

There are plenty of races left, for all you prospective story threaders.

You could be the Tholians, the Gorn, or the Bajorans (Starchild would do a good job with them, I think), or you could elect to be a shapeshifter, or you could command a small mercenary fleet. Of course the Maquis are open game, and you could always take charge of a single world within the Federation, such as Trill or Vulcan or something like that.
Oh, and of course the Breen, and if you like writing mainly stories, you could be the Bajoran Prophets.

I think that tomorrow we ought to start posting our preliminary stats, specifically and most importantly our military stats. I'm going to try to find exact Federation OrBats on the Internet, I'm sure some loser has compiled them

	24-07-2000 08:02									#8
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Dang, I just realized that we also need a cartographer. I'm no good at this, maybe someone else is?

I suggest not posting the pic on this thread, as it would slow down load time. Simply post a link, that's my suggestion.

	24-07-2000 08:20									#9
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I hope some one is the Gorn; weird looking but interesting. I like the Cardassians much better though.

David, you are talking to the king of astronomical cartography. Simply supply me with the map, and I'll go from there adding features from a ruler mark to placing where fleets are deployed.

BTW, David: Do you still have ICQ?

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	24-07-2000 08:32									#10
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Polaris, I was thinking of finding just a simple 2D map of the Star Trek universe, and then getting someone (you?) to adapt it.

I do indeed still have ICQ, my number is still 11339290, and yes, I do need to start booting it up and checking it again.

	24-07-2000 10:10									#11
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I'd be more than willing to perform as the cartographer for this thread, David.

Brings me back to our old Star Trek forum that whistler never did set up. *Sigh* Those were days, DF.

Let's try to get all those people that claimed races to come back and claim some again. We had around 15 people, I believe.

	24-07-2000 10:15									#12
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Hmmm when will this get started?

	24-07-2000 19:32									#13
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Remember the first Star Trek movie?

The Voyager space probe turned merged with a human and the chick and turend into some super being....

I was wondering.

Could I like take charge of a civ called the "Voyagers"? Offspring of that first movie....

And yes ICQ is a must have.

	25-07-2000 09:02									#14
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Sure, go ahead WarVoid.

I think that we can get started tomorrow. Today, everyone should post their relevent statistics and fleet information - things like that.

	24-07-2000 22:37									#15
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A question. (again )

Do we have a basic set of guides to base our ships and armies on.

Like for ships;
Galaxy Class 30a/12d/12m
Universe Class 41a/20d/8m

or for troops
Ground Troops 10a/7d/1m
Sappers 20a/2d/3m

and so on.

A basic standard to base our demographics on.
We also need to set size limits. No massive armies at the start.

	25-07-2000 01:54									#16
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OK WarVoid that makes sense.

A general fleet movement rule - a fleet moves at the speed of its slowest ship. For speed, we will simply use standard Star Trek warp units, until someone develops something better.

Obviously no massive armies, although armies will probably not figure too prominently into this game.

Fleet realism will be most important, IMO, and I have already set up Starfleet. Basically, what I did was to get on the Internet and find a listing of every ship in Starfleet to ever appear or be mentioned in a TNG, DS9, or Voyager episode. I ended up with a good sized fleet, which I supplemented with a few extra Akira class ships (I only had 3, now I have 7 or 8), plus a few extra ships in other classes. I additionally set up a class of frigates known as the Loknar class, with about 30 or so starships, and a Georgetown class destroyer, with 5 ships, plus a Wasp class assault transport for my Marines, of which there are about 8.

My fleet marine force is 4 combat divisions, plus several regimental, battalion, and company sized teams, plus some expeditionary units.

The following is the exact number of ships in Starfleet, and I can email my Notepad file with their names and designations if desired.

Akira Class - 7
Ambassador Class - 11
Constellation Class - 6
Danube Class - 10
Defiant Class - 3
Excelsior Class - 21
Galaxy Class - 5
Georgetown Class - 5
Intrepid Class - 3
Loknar Class - 34
Miranda Class - 10
Nebula Class - 15
New Orleans Class - 5
Norway Class - 4
Oberth Class - 7
Sabre Class - 2
Sovereign Class - 2
Soyuz Class - 4
Steamrunner Class - 5
Wasp Class - 6

That's about all we need, I think, for giving our military stats (of course include ground forces). I have exact names and NCC designations for each ship, but that's unnecessary.

	25-07-2000 08:54									#17
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Major Klingon Ship Types
( i got this from a Birth of the Federation web site< very fun game buy it if you like Turn based games and startrek or even just one of those two> and i believe that we can use the ship descriptions given to get a idea of how many and how strong some of the stadard ships are. nothing covering the dominion though any way website at bottom)

VOR'CHA Class
Type:Warship
Build Cost:Prohibitive
Structure:Strong
Attack:Very powerfull
Shielding:Heavy
Speed:Fast
The Vor'cha-class warship is easily the most powerful starship available. Its price is high, but the Vor'cha rarely, if ever, needs to be replaced.

K'Vort Class
Type: Cruiser
Build Cost: Moderate
Structural: Durable
Attack: Moderate
Shielding: Moderate
Speed: Average
The K'Vort-class cruiser is a more practical warship. It is as tough as a warship should be, and the lower cost allows these warships to fight in groups. ( Just a note the K'Vort can cloak)

MAY'DUJ
Type: Battle Cruiser
Build Cost: Inexpensive
Structural: Average
Attack: Light
Shielding: Minimal
Speed: Slow
The May'Duj-class battle cruiser is an older design of starship, whose main advantage is its ease of construction.
http://www.microprose.com/gamesdesi.../5001ships.html

	25-07-2000 10:23									#18
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Good job...ignore W99...thanks

Anyway, I'd like to lead a Klingon battle-fleet if that is ok with hacksaw. I'd like to be one of his generals.

	25-07-2000 11:12									#19
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Armed Forces of the Romulan Star Empire

	25-07-2000 13:45									#20
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Armed Forces of the Dominion

	25-07-2000 23:37									#21
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OK, the game is starting now. Any new claims are welcome, however if we delay any longer people will lose interest.

Organization of Starfleet, the Fleet Marine Force, and the Federation Ground Forces

	26-07-2000 05:55									#22
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I don't have much time to do this and Apolyton is running very slow today. So if this looks familiar don't shoot me.

Organization of the V'Ger Star Alliance Marine Force, and the Alliance Ground Forces

	26-07-2000 06:36									#23
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I want the Maquis!
Or am I too late?
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	26-07-2000 08:08									#24
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No such thing as "too late" in a thread unless you're claiming something already claimed

...where's hacksaw?

	26-07-2000 08:40									#25
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I want to be a group of mercenaries. Kind of like the Maquis, with a bunch of races and different varieties of ships. I want to start with a group of capital ships from all different races. I also request my intelligence-gathering capabilities be taken into account if possible. Is it possible for me to take such a role in this thread?

	26-07-2000 09:03									#26
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Mao remember that group of mercenaries in "The Gambit"?

	26-07-2000 10:24									#27
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Sadly no...I don't know all the episodes...

	26-07-2000 17:34									#28
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What about the Ferengi or the Orion Sydicate? The Ferengi hire mercenaries and the Orion Syndicate runs an interstellar gangster band.

I'm still new to this, so will someone "show me the ropes" so to speak?

	26-07-2000 19:55									#29
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Ummmmmm...of course I know what you're talking about...but you tell me what you're talking so that I can make sure you know...yeah...that's it...

Orion Syndicate?

Ferengi do, but I don't want to have to defend anything.

	27-07-2000 00:46									#30
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OOC
Shadow, of course you can be the Maquis or anyone else you want.
WarVoid, did you just copy and paste my armed forces into your own? What's up with that?
Sorry I couldnt' post more yesterday, the server was killing me
Timescale - 1 day = 2 weeks, standard stuff. I will post the current date (in the normal calendar, of course) at the top of the first thread every day. If I miss a day, remind me the next day.
Here goes the first in character post.

IC
STABLE WORMHOLE DISCOVERED
At the space station Deep Space 9, orbiting the planet of Bajor, Commander Benjamin Sisko has located a stable wormhole into the Gamma Quadrant. There have been limited surveys into the wormhole, but so far no major explorations have been launched.

STARFLEET COMMAND
Today, at Starfleet Command in San Francisco, Earth, a top secret meeting took place to determine what should be done about the wormhole.
After much debate, it has been agreed that the wormhole, and indeed Bajor, has become one of the most strategic sites in the Alpha Quadrant. As such, a four point plan is being put into effect immediately:
1)Bajor is being offered membership into the Federation.
2)A Federation toehold will be established on the far side of the wormhole, and a heavily defended Starbase will be constructed.
3)A six ship task force, including a Galaxy Class ship, will be stationed at DS9 at all times.
4)All information about the wormhole is being classified Most Secret, until a significant Starfleet presence can be built up on either side of the wormhole.

***SECRET MESSAGE TO THE ROMULAN STAR EMPIRE***
The Federation would like to enter into negotiations with you with regards to scrapping the Treaty of Algeron. We would like to begin discussions immediately, and we invite a Romulan delegation to come to Earth to discuss this proposal.
***END MESSAGE***

UTOPIA PLANETIA SHIPYARDS
The Utopia Planetia Shipyards, orbiting Mars, have received their ship production orders for the next year. This year's production includes (OOC will be available at the end of the year IC):
2 Galaxy Class
7 Miranda Class (upgraded)
9 Loknar Class
4 New Orleans Class
7 Nebula Class
8 Soyuz Class
6 Georgetown Class
3 Wasp Class
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