26-12-2003 12:31									#1
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Sometimes I think kids lose respect for their parents when they figure out their parents lied to them. I don't think parents should ever lie to their children. Even about Santa Claus. I'm not going to say Santa Claus is the cause of all of America's problems (it was very difficult resisting making that my thread title ), but I don't think Santa Claus is healthy for children.

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	26-12-2003 13:58									#2
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Kids lose respect for their parents whether they lie to them or not. Meanwhile, I'll just carry on injecting a little magic and fantasy into my daughter's life before grim reality eventually takes its toll.

	26-12-2003 14:35									#3
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my grandfather plays santaclaus every year at christmastime... i remember 'santa' knocking at my window one christmas eve, before i figured things out... and yet somehow i've still maintained my wonderment of magic in the world..

	26-12-2003 14:37									#4
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When I was about 14 some younger neighbor kids asked me if Santa existed and I told them no, that was a mistake. Their mother came to my house very angry with me... I should have told them to go ask their parents... I didn't lose any respect for my folks when I learned the truth, when you're old enough to learn such truths you're also old enough to see the motive behind such "lies"...

	26-12-2003 14:45									#5
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Hell, the Santa myth gives kids two important lessons in life - the first when they realize that Santa doesn't exist and the second when they realize they'll still get gifts even if they stop pretending they believe Santa exists.

	26-12-2003 14:55									#6
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I agree with Dissident. I don' see why the Santa thing (well, the Three Magic Kings in Spain, but it's the same)... In fact, the Santa is the only example that I know of a wide-spread, total conspiration...

	26-12-2003 15:32									#7
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Conspiracy?

It's Santa Claus, not Carlos the Jackal you strange man.

	26-12-2003 16:49									#8
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Ok, after checking in "dictionary.com" I've learned that you the English people always link Conspirancy with evil or illegal actions... In Spanish we don't do that, so I get confussed

My point is that I've not seen a group of people that agrees on to lie and hide the truth in such a wide-spread scale.

	26-12-2003 18:37									#9
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We should stop telling fairy tales to children. These are just big lies. Let´s tell them that is all Bush´s fault instead

	26-12-2003 18:45									#10
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro We should stop telling fairy tales to children. These are just big lies. Let´s tell them that is all Bush´s fault instead

I agree.

quote: Kids lose respect for their parents whether they lie to them or not.

How true.

Well, it's not that bad that kids believe in Santa Claus. It's worse when they believe in the Easter Bunny, especially when they believe that the eggs were laid by the bunny.

	26-12-2003 18:55									#11
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I'm thinking the anti-Santa people don't have kids.

	26-12-2003 19:19									#12
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Ive never lost respect for my parents, I managed to fool them into thinking I still believed in santa until I was about 13 and my sister blurted out the truth to my mom while she was talking about christmas.

	26-12-2003 19:21									#13
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I'll teach my kids the truth. That Santa is a child molester.

	26-12-2003 21:21									#14
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i never lie to my kids... ive always believed if they are old enough to ask they are old enough to know the answer without any bullxxxx attached. my daughter still loves christmas and we pretend as always.
we put out cookies and milk and carrots for the reindeer.
i put gifts out from santa... she just looks at me and grins ...like its our big secret... that im santa. =D

	26-12-2003 23:41									#15
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Sorry, Boann, but I'm a little confused here. If you didn't ever lie to your kids re: Santa Claus, then how did the tradition even begin in your household?

	26-12-2003 23:44									#16
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I don't think we should stop telling fairy tales... kids get older and smarter and figure things out for themselves...

the problem I see is that so many morons don't realize JESUS IS A FAIRY TALE...

easter bunny, tooth fairy, santa claus, JESUS ****ING CHRIST

	27-12-2003 00:38									#17
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Sorry, Boann, but I'm a little confused here. If you didn't ever lie to your kids re: Santa Claus, then how did the tradition even begin in your household?

i don't really remember.....seems like its just a non discussion. since when they are babies they don't ask
we have always opened our presents on christmas morning and theres always some presents from santa
and stuff in the stockings.
seems they ask pretty young ...i think my daughter asked when she was 3 ... shes 9 now.
pretend and fairy tales are wonderful things when your a kid. we read a lot of stories and talk a lot. ... santa is very much treated like the fairy tale it is.


on the other hand Jesus is not treated like a fairy tale
in my home.

	27-12-2003 00:41									#18
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quote: on the other hand Jesus is not treated like a fairy tale in my home.

no personal offense intended

	27-12-2003 01:16									#19
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What do you mean lying about Santa?

He's not hurt is he?

	27-12-2003 04:20									#20
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What's all this? There's no Santa? Say ain't so!

	27-12-2003 06:05									#21
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Diss, I agree. When is honesty never the best policy? And I'm not talking about wartime intelligence deceptions, etc.

	27-12-2003 08:59									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Kids lose respect for their parents whether they lie to them or not.

I didn't lose respect for my parent's, they knew how to beat a kid good and proper. Let that be a lesson for you. Forget the fairy tails, just put a little elbow grease into the leather belt.

	27-12-2003 09:05									#23
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i find it amazing that when kids find out they've been lied to about santa, the easter bunny, et al, that they still believe in another mythical character, god.

	27-12-2003 09:33									#24
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Too true.

I think Santa is harmless. I didn't lose any trust about it.

	27-12-2003 10:02									#25
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You could try emphasizing the spiritual nature of Santa Claus. He was an actual person you know. Just tell the kids that the "spirit" of St. Nicholas travels the Earth sharing the wealth with good girls and boys on Christams Eve.