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Voltaire
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Calgary, Alberta
Aug 2001
time: 22:32
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The Hive reaches a crossroads Comrades, Comrade Kody himself feels confident of the industrial, scientific, economic, and military might of the Glorious Human Hive against the other factions on Planet. With our brothers and sisters the Drones we shall spread the socialist revolution across this world and bring Planet under the rule of the proletariat.
The Central Containing Committee brings to you, the People, a mandate. We wish to hear your thought on future Hive foreign policy. What is the position of the People on the CyCon, PEACE, University, and the other factions?
Present your arguments for what you think the Hive should do with these factions in order to free their people from the oppressive chains of the bourgeoisie. The voice of the People will be used to formulate foreign policy.
Only relevant comments will be considered, so please present your argument in a clear and constructive manner. Tell us your position on Hive foreign policy toward all the other factions.
-Chairman Voltaire
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:32
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quote:
The Hive reaches a crossroads Comrades, Comrade Kody himself feels confident of the industrial, scientific, economic, and military might of the Glorious Human Hive against the other factions on Planet. With our brothers and sisters the Drones we shall spread the socialist revolution across this world and bring Planet under the rule of the proletariat.
The Central Containing Committee brings to you, the People, a mandate. We wish to hear your thought on future Hive foreign policy. What is the position of the People on the CyCon, PEACE, University, and the other factions?
Present your arguments for what you think the Hive should do with these factions in order to free their people from the oppressive chains of the bourgeoisie. The voice of the People will be used to formulate foreign policy.
Only relevant comments will be considered, so please present your argument in a clear and constructive manner. Tell us your position on Hive foreign policy toward all the other factions.
-Chairman Voltaire
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Voltaire!
Don't put html tags in your thread title the thread comes up blank when you do that. Not everyone realises that you can still read the message when you view source.
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Enigma_Nova
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Let's see what we have to work with here:
DIPLOMACY:
The Hive and Drones are in perma-pact
The CyCon are at war with the Pirates
The Pirates are Pacted to the Uni for some reason
TECH:
If the plan goes correctly, the Hive/Drones soon have Neural / Missiles with Clean Copters to come
CyCon have Init and NonLinear
Uni has SoftHB and EnvEcon (Buster's gonna probe em)
MILITARY:
I don't know about the CyCon forces...
Drones and Uni have Mark I ogres
Other than that people will have to be buildin'
Miriam probably has a large standing army, and Roze will have her probes.
FACTION LOCATIONS:
The following factions are close:
HIVE -- DRONES & UNIV & ANGELS
DRONES -- HIVE & UNIV
UNIV -- DRONES & CYCON
CYCON -- PEACE & MIRIAM & UNIV
PEACE -- CYCON & ANGELS
MIRIAM -- ANGELS & CYCON
ANGELS -- HIVE & PEACE & MIRIAM
FACTION POWER:
Miriam: AI (crap)
Roze: AI (crap)
Peace: Fairly weak
Uni: Fairly weak
CyCon: Okay
Drones: Formidable
Hive: Formidable
BTW Cruisers are not Retrograde. They're very useful for getting units from Point A to point OWNED, unless you're planning on building a land bridge or using Noodle transports.
Here's what I think:
CyCon have some things of value to us.
Namely, they have Cruisers, Amphibious, and Impact isn't all that bad. They may also loot Adaptive Economics.
Uni will be robbed by Drones with loot sent to us.
Other factions are useful only for commerce and bases.
To this end, we should strike a temporary alliance with the CyCon. They will send the units and tech, and we will send our support.
Chances are we could buy them off with EnvEcon or at the worst Synth Fuels.
They will send us some tools.
We declare war on the PEACE, and by virtue of the pact, we also declare war on the PUT (probes notwithstanding). This is okay since we've been cheated by the PEACE.
Since they are nearby, poorly run and weakly defended, the PUT are our first target. We must capture their bases before the drones can do so - we'll have to ask for our foil back if we lend it to them for the probe.
To prove we're serious about the CyCon-Peace war we should send the EnvEco and Synth Fuels (In the end it doesn't matter since their Crappy Synths are going down).
They'll be happy.
While this is going on, we conquer the Angels. This gives us a PEACE access point. Spare Uni troops can go to the Angels or Peace as needed.
If the Peace hasn't been defeated yet (I think it will be), we go in and help the CyCon take over them.
Now here's the elite part:
We have our army fresh in Angel Territory and also in PUT territory.
We have Missile Copters in range of the CyCon.
We also now have transport cruisers.
We declare war on the CyCon.
Hopefully the drones haven't taken too many of our Uni bases... but they'll support us if they have.
This war won't be a cake walk but a Drones + Hive Chop and Drop should defeat the CyCon.
Once this is done, our population will be large.
We call Supreme Governor and win.
My immediate stance is to buy Cruisers and Impact Amphibious from the CyCon, and declare war on the Pirates and Uni.
We should also try to get Adaptive Economics from them.
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:32
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quote:
To prove we're serious about the CyCon-Peace war we should send the EnvEco and Synth Fuels (In the end it doesn't matter since their Crappy Synths are going down).
They'll be happy.
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If we plan on eventually going to war against the cycon we don't what them having MMI. That's why we're shouldn't giving them Synth Fuels.
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My immediate stance is to buy Cruisers and Impact Amphibious from the CyCon
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It's not worth it as we'll have missle choppers and drop troops before we can get crusiers and impact from the cycon. Since crusiers are available from the AI and pirates as well they won't be that hard to get. Impact is currently in the hands of the AI and the cycon. I expect that tech will spread as well if we need it.
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:32
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We'll probably get them easily by the time it comes around to taking over pirate bases.
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:32
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Crusiers take a while to build. Also we'll need to pay prototype costs. 6 movement rate on ocean means several turns moving towards the pirates.
I should make clear that I'm not trying to disuade people from these kinds of plans, rather there's practial problems with sea based warfare. The cycon undoubtedly started preparations the very turn they broke pact with the cycon. Otherwise they must have a very small attack force, or they have a brillant industry setup.
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:32
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*Points out the issue is time frame. Not that we'll never need it.*
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Enigma_Nova
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a 4-1-1 marine gets pwned by our 1-1-1 scouts as soon as it lands.
At worst we'll lose 2 scouts and have dronage.
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