30-12-2003 10:16									#31
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However, the time difference between the Concorde and a normal jet airliner is a LOT smaller than the time difference between a normal jet airliner and a ship.

	30-12-2003 10:17									#32
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Dude, the time diference between Concorde and 757 is not comparable to the time difference between 757 and passenger liner.

I'd never pay an extra 1000$ to get on the Concorde; I would pay an extra 1000$ to get on an aircraft (rather than a boat).

	30-12-2003 10:19									#33
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Bah...let us NEVER speak of this again...

	30-12-2003 10:26									#34
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I predict the return of the Zeppelin!

Don't you mean the hydrogen filled Zeppelin?

This talk of alternative ranged transport reminds me: is the US going to build any high-speed railroads? You know, more than one?

	30-12-2003 10:34									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Anun Ik Oba Don't you mean the hydrogen filled Zeppelin? This talk of alternative ranged transport reminds me: is the US going to build any high-speed railroads? You know, more than one?

being a democracy we took a poll and asked ppl if they wanted to:

A)buy their own car
B)give the gov't money so they can all take the same train

for some bizzarre reason they picked A. I'm investigating this anomaly as we speak tho.

	30-12-2003 10:50									#36
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quote: A)buy their own car

Brilliant!!! The irony of course being that we still don't travel any faster then a 100 years ago.

	30-12-2003 10:58									#37
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Trains are a completely impractical form of transportation for America.

	30-12-2003 10:59									#38
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No they aren't, especially along the Eastern seaboard.

	30-12-2003 11:00									#39
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quote: No they aren't, especially along the Eastern seaboard.

That's about the only place. Maybe California too, but that's it.

	30-12-2003 11:01									#40
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: A)buy their own car Brilliant!!! The irony of course being that we still don't travel any faster then a 100 years ago.

but if ur in an escalade its all good.

also I fail to see how thats an irony.

	30-12-2003 11:11									#41
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quote: quote: quote: Will you feel safer if an Air France plane flies over the US with French Marshalls in it? No.

i hope this isn't serious... i personally think it's taking the current unhipness of being french in america a bit too far.

quote: Brilliant!!! The irony of course being that we still don't travel any faster then a 100 years ago.

actually, we do. that's mostly a function of the eisenhower interstate system, though.

quote: being a democracy we took a poll and asked ppl if they wanted to: A)buy their own car B)give the gov't money so they can all take the same train for some bizzarre reason they picked A. I'm investigating this anomaly as we speak tho.

as for this, it only goes to show that peopple don't often vote in their own best interest. driving around in atlanta hammers that point home.

as for rail being a useful sort of transport in america. fat chance. but that's mostly 'cause air travel is so easy and comparatively cheap in america that people would either drive or fly.

	30-12-2003 11:16									#42
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quote: i hope this isn't serious... i personally think it's taking the current unhipness of being french in america a bit too far.

I'm dead serious. The French are the Koreans of Europe and I wouldn't trust them for a second because of it...

	30-12-2003 11:21									#43
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quote: I'm dead serious. The French are the Koreans of Europe and I wouldn't trust them for a second because of it...

actually, the irish are the koreans of europe.

	30-12-2003 11:23									#44
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I'd actually say the Belgians are.

	30-12-2003 11:29									#45
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why? when you think about it:
ireland and korea both brutally oppressed by an island neighbor for centuries.
ireland and korea both are homes to people quite proud of their heritage.
ireland and korea are both split into two pieces which don't much like each others' governments, but they like the people on the other side.
ireland is known as the 'celtic tiger' in some economic circles; korea is one of the 'asian tigers'.
irish people have tempers. so do koreans.
irish people don't wish they were anyone else; koreans don't either.

belgians secretly wish they were dutch. the french secretly wish they were german.

	30-12-2003 11:30									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed the french secretly wish they were german.

	30-12-2003 11:34									#47
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Belgians and Koreans were both ****ed by 2 different powerful neighbours.

Irish only got it from one (well, in medieval times and later, that is).

	30-12-2003 11:41									#48
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well, the chinese never really ****ed the koreans over. most of the ****ing-overs have been from japan.

	30-12-2003 11:42									#49
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Japan is close enough to be considered a bordernation to Korea

	30-12-2003 11:42									#50
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The Chinese took heavy tribute for a few hundred years, no?

	30-12-2003 11:43									#51
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Plus, Chinese and Japanese fought in Korea

Just like French and Germans fought in Belgium, mainly.

	30-12-2003 12:05									#52
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quote: well, the chinese never really ****ed the koreans over. most of the ****ing-overs have been from japan.

Bullshit. You only remember the Japanese ****ing overs because they were so recent. In the greater scheme of things, China ****ed Korea over for a lot longer.

	30-12-2003 13:53									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: well, the chinese never really ****ed the koreans over. most of the ****ing-overs have been from japan. Bullshit. You only remember the Japanese ****ing overs because they were so recent. In the greater scheme of things, China ****ed Korea over for a lot longer.

Go back and check your history again

	30-12-2003 13:55									#54
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Canada has placed covert officers on some flights into Washington, New York and Chicago for almost 2 years. They're the ones in the red Habs jerseys drinking heavily. So far there have been no incidence.

	30-12-2003 14:41									#55
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quote: Go back and check your history again

Actually, it's your history, not mine, which makes your seemingly complete ignorance about it quite troubling...

	30-12-2003 14:44									#56
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quote: actually, we do. that's mostly a function of the eisenhower interstate system, though.

OK, I was refering too innercity travel though.
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quote: I'd actually say the Belgians are.

I was reading Q cubed's post and thought too myself, ohh, not the Belgians for once..
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quote: belgians secretly wish they were dutch.

Go wash your mouth with soap immediately young man!!
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quote: Belgians and Koreans were both ****ed by 2 different powerful neighbours.

You can make that (at least) 3, the Dutch were powerfull once too.

	30-12-2003 15:28									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Go back and check your history again Actually, it's your history, not mine, which makes your seemingly complete ignorance about it quite troubling...

Apparently you are not talking about our history, so it must be yours.

Oh, I forgot, you are not Japanese, just a wanna be.

	30-12-2003 17:52									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: No they aren't, especially along the Eastern seaboard. That's about the only place. Maybe California too, but that's it.

If you add the Seattle - Vancouver area, I think that's quite many Americans that could live with efficient train system, don't you?

	30-12-2003 19:44									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I was under the impression the cops were of the plane's country of departure. IIUC, the British (who are always the first to happily obey to big bro US) have set up their own marshall force just one or two days ago.

This is just plain wrong.

The UK Air Marshall programme has been training for over a YEAR.

The UK air pilots Union are kicking up a stink - they want the same practice as adopted by the US air pilots (in brief; to know when air marshall(s) are on board; to retain pilot authority; to use low velocity non penentrating non incendiary rounds; etc etc.

They have NOT been given these safeguards and are threatening a boycott of flights to the US as a result.

The US govt is NOT at fault here; it's the pencil pecker packing Brit beauracrats.

quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Now, let me ask you this question. Will you feel safer if an Air France plane flies over the US with French Marshalls in it?

Depends on whether their family is Algerian in origin...

	30-12-2003 21:13									#60
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I'd rather have a trained air marshall with a weapon providing security on a plane than an untrained airline pilot.