31-12-2003 07:29									#1
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the nations I want to see in Civ 4

It should be set at 60 nations max
The more the civs the better. I tried to put them all around the globe yet focus on those that were important.

For American culture groups:

USA
Iroquois
Sioux/ Lakota
Mayas
Aztecs
Incas
Nazca
Inuit
Utes

For West European culture groups:
UK
France
Spain
Portugal
Germany
Netherlands
Vikings
Sweden
Ireland (maybe)

For eastern Europe:
Russia
Poland
Austria (since they had alot of slavs)
hate to say it but I really don't want Byzantium again, they are Greeks in the location where the ottomans need to be

For Mediterranean culture groups:
Rome
Greece
Carthage
Egypt

For Neareast culture groups:
Arabs
Turkey
Persia
Israel
Numbia
Babylon
Assyria
Sumeria
Hittite

For south/Southeast Asian/ Hindu culture groups
India
Harappa
Khemer
Indonesia/ Majaphit empire
Thailand
Champa

For Far East Asia:
China
Japan
Korea
Mongolia
Tibet (or should this go with south asia?)
Dai Viet (Vietnamese civ)

For Oceania:
Polynesia
Maori
Aborigiese

For Africa:
Shonghai
Ashanti
Mali
Ethiopia
Zulu
Xhosa
Bantu or something from Kenya or Tanzania

Last edited by civilleader on 31-12-2003 at 07:47

	31-12-2003 07:42									#2
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I want to see half of them.

Just Romans, Greeks, French, Germans, English, Russians, Zulu, Aztecs, Incas, Americans, Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Egyptians, Babylonians/Persians, and that's it.

All the others are half-arse civs. I'd only add the Japanese and the Incas to the original selection for Civ1

-Jam

	31-12-2003 08:20									#3
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You wont ever get anywhere in this debate without a definition of "civilization", "culture" and the like. There are tons of civilizations, and civilizations within civilizations and so on. The question is: what does it take for a civilization to get into Civ?

I had already made a post about this once, but it's burried somewhere...

	31-12-2003 08:27									#4
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ISRAEL

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	31-12-2003 09:08									#5
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I think I dropped this in the wrong (but seemingly identical) thread, so here it is again:

quote: I'd favour more civs, so long as its not just a CtP style list of names that makes your eventual choice meaningless. With this in mind, it makes it easier (relatively) to choose which civs are included: not just did they play a role in the history of civilization (because which culture hasn't?) but can you give them a specialization that has some historical importance and add to game play in a unique way. In this sense, Civ3 and its sequals have done a good job in my book.

jon.

	31-12-2003 09:09									#6
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We can't have nearly as many as CtP(2). Each civ should be distinctive like in C3. Civ traits and UU's added enormous depth to C3.

	31-12-2003 10:09									#7
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everybody in civ3+ptw+conquests should carry over.