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Maniac
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Gent, Belgium
Jul 1999
time: 06:33
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From Kody,
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Maniac,
Once a while ago, I did you a favour with getting reismarks for your avatar. Now I hope you can return that favour.
Due to problems with Jamski in the hive government we were wondering if the cycon would take Jamski in (assuming we get googlie to agree).
The last thing that the hive wants is to throw Jamski out of the game. However, we feel that Jamski's view on the way things should be run in the hive doesn't match that of the majority.
His trial is going to be happening very soon. As this is his second offence, I doubt they'll give him a third chance.
The hive accepts that Jamski will defame the hive while in the cycon. We hope that the cycon balances whatever he says about us with some reason. Also that he will share all our plans and opinions. Since we never hid that much from the cycon anyway, it won't matter that much.
We simply ask that he doesn't give out the password, or open up or allow others to open up the old hive save game files.
This idea hasn't been finalised yet, I've only talked to voltaire. I wish to speak to honghu and perhaps some of the others.
Kody |
My reply:
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Hi Kody,
That seems like a good solution.  Though the preferred outcome for this game in the Consciousness is still a co-op with you if possible. Do you think Jamski would try to prevent that? 
Can I post this PM in the CyCon private forum, so every cyborg can give his opinion? Or do you first want to discuss it a bit more in the Hive?
Greetings,
Maniac |
Kody back:
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This PM I don't consider secret so you can post it in your forum. Note that this idea isn't 100% certain, and nothing may come of it. At the moment I'm trying to ensure the move is legal for this unique case.
I don't want you to upset Jamski over this issue until Googlie comes back with a reply. So please don't tell him until it's rule possible or not. Googlie may rule it as illegal and hence I will probably have to suffer some serious backlash. After it is decided whether it's legal or not the courts need to decide whether Jamski will be exiled or not. Mead, Octavian and Honghu will be running the proceedings as those are the most impartial judges we could find.
The main issue is that Jamski hasn't been getting along well with the current hive leaders, and has pulled a few stunts that we didn't approve of. I reached the end of patience this morning when he critisied Voltaire and me publically throwing out words I didn't even say.
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Though the preferred outcome for this game in the Consciousness is still a co-op with you if possible. Do you think Jamski would try to prevent that? |
Jamski won't prevent it as long as he's not pissed with the hive. The trial will be mostly roleplay of nature so hopefully he won't get pissed.
Also it will be the cycon's responsibility to balance whatever Jamski says with sound reasoning and consideration if jamski decides he hates the Hive. |
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
Also why dose everyone thinks he has been feeding us vast sums of information and is about to give us passwords and other highly illegal stuff. We would never accept such contraband in the first place, its blatently illegal. Is our public image that bad? |
Where did you hear this?
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:33
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Also why dose everyone thinks he has been feeding us vast sums of information and is about to give us passwords and other highly illegal stuff. We would never accept such contraband in the first place, its blatently illegal. Is our public image that bad?
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At the time yes.
Hrmm maybe I shouldn't have listen to tassadar so much about the whole spy issues. Maybe I took him too serious.
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Maybe we should try to offer him an asylum |
And it looks like there's more proof that I've misjudged people.
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Forget I mentioned anything about moving jamski to the cycon. If Voltaire wants to bring it up again he can do that.
The odd one out isn't Jamski, he fits right in with the faction, it's me.
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From Kody. And Kody has left the Hive once again.
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Yeah, I should have nevered even considered the possibility of removing Jamski out of the Hive. Where was my loyalty to a friend.
I realised that while I made great progress for the Hive that great progress was detrimental to the team. My actions didn't encourge team play, and I need to stay away long enough so that team play developed.
So that's what I did, and I was right. They eventually did manage to gain long term stability, although the Hive was nolonger as quirky and interesting place to be.
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Snowflake
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falling, once again
Apr 2003
time: 23:33
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I was the one who opposed moving Jamski to the CCs. I have till today believed in his love to the Hive. He may have done things that was not so good in the end result for the Hive, but I never doubted his intention for one minute.
The Hive never really managed to gain any long term stability. The only stability I have to say is myself, and Voltaire, actually. But the Hive has always been a nice place to be. Jamski is the one who first made the Hive such a quirky and interesting place. And so many others. The gameplay may not be effecient but we were high in spirit. Impaler was so wrong in thinking that the good spamming does not do good to a team.
When Kody first gained superiority I fighted hard against him. I sent Voltaire multiple PMs accusing him being LinBiao (Mao's vice chairman who planned an unsuccessful coup). I forwarded all those PMs to Jamski when he came back from ceiling painting, and was misunderstood by him and thus caused a three way conversation among Voltaire, Jamski and Tass, when Jamski accused me of running some kind of conspiracy. You can all read the chat transcript in the IC stories.
Jamski convinced me that Kody was alright and I started to trust him. And we had a brief golden age. But then the team activity has started to die down because Kody was so effecient, just as I predicted to Voltaire. When Kody realized it he tried to take on a teaching role, but people just got lazy. The Hive never recovered its golden age no matter if Kody quit from the team, or come back for the team.
And then we lost many good Hiverians, and either the temporary but frequent retirement of Kody or the periodical inactiveness and later defecting of Jamski did any good to the team. I reckon although they are friends who values and respects each other, one never really accepted the other's right to be the most prominent member in the team. And thus the feelings were hurt by each other. And they never were able to really work together. I had tried to be a facilitator, but I was never too successful in uniting people together.
But I don't know why, I still feel the Hive is the best team. And we have the best teamates. I really do love each and every one of them.
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:33
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Actually I'm very impressionable. You see Voltiare had been talking to me about Rokossovky and how he would try and take over. Two days later Rokossovky offered me a job and I turned it down because I thought Rokossovky might have been trying something. Looking back I don't actually think Rokossovky was trying anything.
Just like now that I look back I think I was largely wrong about the cycon. Won't go into who was talking to me.
I really was sitting on the fence, because I always avoid conflict if I can and was pretty sure I could avoid it. If was trying to see if you were brought by Roko, then it was because I'm insanely curious about everything (that conversation was a bit hazy for me though). At the time my only strong loyalty was to Vev who was completely netural, and a partial loyalty to Voltaire because I believe in following the command structure.
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Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
time: 14:33
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Well I learnt how to threadjack in the Hive, because everyone would do it all the time there. There were threadjacks of threadjacks in the Hive.
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02-01-2004 07:17
Kody left again!? Maybe we should try to offer him an asylum 
Oh what fun time it was ...
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Sometimes I'm amazed the turn was actually played.
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