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Bereta_Eder is offline Bereta_Eder
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I just started reading this book, a present for holidays.


WHAT THE FOOK ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT??? THAT'S GRAND CONSIPRACY FIRST DEGREE!!


WHAT DO THE REPUBLICANS HAVE TO SAY?


bah.

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what?

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ok ok i didnt mean to scare ya

what do the republicans have to say about the allegations (if i get more PC i kill myself) conserning electoral fraud in the state of florida?

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What book? Is it Stupid White Men? Or just Stupid Whites?

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What book? Is it Stupid White Men? Or just Stupid Whites?

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let me check the english title: stupid white men

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Republicans have the following to say about Stupid White Men: "It is written by a treacherous and fat liberal. Do not believe the lies."

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I'd rather hear what they have to say

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It's not like Michael Moore is concerned about the hunger problem which is btw number one priorities in UN this year.. hunger and poverty. Because he eats like 10 men.

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http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20020403.html

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Where does this article address the electoral fraud allegetions?

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It doesn't; but I figure if half the things in the article are true, it doesn't matter what that book says about anything.

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That won't do I'm afraid. He is very precise in all his descriptions of events conserning the events he claims constituted electoral fraud. Isn't there a reply by the republican party conserning those exact allegations and data he provides?

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I'd imagine it would go something like this: "These accusations of electoral fraud are false; Bush '04."

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I'd imagine it would go something like this: "These accusations of electoral fraud are false; Bush '04."


What St Leo said then?

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You want the Republican position on the the Florida 2000 debacle? Well, there was a lot written on it on both sides in articles during the whole thing with each party accusing the other of fraud and trying to steal the election. Since the Bush victory in 2000, Republicans were largely satisfies with the result and stopped worrying about it. Many on the left wing however were infuriated by the results and have continued to dwell on it, and have published alot of material on it. However, most of the claims have been outside the mainstream enough so as to not recieved much attention from Republicans, and so there had been little in the way of rebutting these people. I do know one of the more moderate liberal books on election 2000 was Too Close to Call. For a Republican perspective, you can check out a republican leaning publication such as newsmax or freerepublic and search that site to see if they still have stuff on Election 2000.

I will say, however, that even if Gore had gotten the recount that he requested, it has been shown Bush would have still won Florida.

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Fine. I was wondering if there is an article which addresses those specific allegations which seem very serious indeed. Especially the "preparations" of the electoral lists.

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ok ok i didnt mean to scare ya

what do the republicans have to say about the allegations (if i get more PC i kill myself) conserning electoral fraud in the state of florida?


We're building a time machine to go back four years ago into the past and fix it.

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So there is something to be fixed?

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That won't do I'm afraid. He is very precise in all his descriptions of events conserning the events he claims constituted electoral fraud. Isn't there a reply by the republican party conserning those exact allegations and data he provides?


They aren't though. He's very good at making his points seem logical and supported, while in reality they are not.

Alot of the claims he made about Canada in his "Bowling for Columbine" movie were refuted by the Government of Canada itself. That says something, especially since Mikey is so pro-Canada.

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They aren't though. He's very good at making his points seem logical and supported, while in reality they are not.

Alot of the claims he made about Canada in his "Bowling for Columbine" movie were refuted by the Government of Canada itself. That says something, especially since Mikey is so pro-Canada.


However he only states facts, as he claims they are. He states names, companies, procedures etc. Those can be easily checked to verify their integrity if there's political will?

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the Dim side:

"BUSH STOLEZORZ THE ELECTION HE SUX A L0T!!!1111 AND MY MOM SXU TOO SHE BUT THAT 'CYBERGRAUD' THING ON MY COMPUETER AND NOW I CANT GO TO BITHEZGALOR.COMM"

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"AHAHAH STSUTPID DIM-OCRAT DORK GORE WAS A WHINEY DORK HE LOST GET OFVER IT AHAHHAA1!!1"

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Verto: Michael Moore countered that spinsanity crap point by point... I'm surprised you are still harping about that crap. So far, Moore hasn't had a critic prove him wrong on anything.

And considering all his critics do is attack his weight instead of his arguments, he's all the more worthy of the public's attention.

whiny right wingers...

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the Dim side:

"BUSH STOLEZORZ THE ELECTION HE SUX A L0T!!!1111 AND MY MOM SXU TOO SHE BUT THAT 'CYBERGRAUD' THING ON MY COMPUETER AND NOW I CANT GO TO BITHEZGALOR.COMM"

the Repug side:

"AHAHAH STSUTPID DIM-OCRAT DORK GORE WAS A WHINEY DORK HE LOST GET OFVER IT AHAHHAA1!!1"

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Verto: Michael Moore countered that spinsanity crap point by point... I'm surprised you are still harping about that crap. So far, Moore hasn't had a critic prove him wrong on anything.

And considering all his critics do is attack his weight instead of his arguments, he's all the more worthy of the public's attention.

whiny right wingers...


Name me some respected academics who even publically comment on him at all? I bet you can't. Pop journalists don't count.

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Name me some respected academics who even publically comment on him at all? I bet you can't. Pop journalists don't count.
what does this have to do with anything? it seems like academic types would only bother chiming in if somebody was completely wrong. Plus, why would they waste their time commenting on some documentary by a political commentator? Right or wrong... "academics" don't comment on such things.

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So far, Moore hasn't had a critic prove him wrong on anything.


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Verto: what's so funny? I still have yet to see someone prove him wrong. He addressed the spinsanity column and other critics last month. Every argument from Moore critics has been shot down. That's why they resort to "uggghhh hhe's fat!"

 
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