03-01-2004 23:54									#1
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I just got a new computer with Windows XP running on it. I'm on a cable modem. I can't host games. I can join other people's games, but I can't host. This wasn't a problem before I got the new machine.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

	04-01-2004 02:14									#2
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The standard Dr. Spike response to this question.

quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Eyes: You need to open and redirect packets arriving on port 4993 to your machine. Otherwise when you host the client will return data, it will get to the router, and it will be blocked, and not know where to go anyway. You will need to know what IP the router has assigned your machine on the LAN, and the external IP of the router (this is probably static, but might change from time to time depending on your ISP). Then you need to go into the router configuration utility (probably browser based) and look for things like port redirection, or network address and port translation, anything that sounds like that. Then tell the router to forward all packets arriving externally on port 4993 to whatever the internal IP of your machine is. In the meantime you can of course play games (when you are the client the connection is made outbound and the firewall will not block the packets, and will know exactly where to send them), you just cannot host.

	04-01-2004 02:15									#3
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Show that to Benji when he comes over the next time.

	04-01-2004 03:18									#4
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Since I have no clue what he is talking about, I will indeed show to my wife and Alexia... I might have more questions... or I should say, they may have some more questions

	04-01-2004 03:47									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I will indeed show to my wife and Alexia...

Hmmmmmmmm.

	04-01-2004 04:01									#6
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And you call yourself the Chief Minion of (the Grand Lord and True Emperor of Apolyton) ...... i just fixed mine by that

	04-01-2004 04:35									#7
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wow, explains why i couldnt host a game too...

just doenst make any sense to me in how to fix the damn thing..

if anyone has a laymans terms explanation i would be greatful

	04-01-2004 08:23									#8
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This is what I did ages ago:

* Go to Network Connections in Control Panel
* Right click on your Internet Connection and select Properties
* Click the Advanced tab
* Down the bottom click Settings
* In the Services tab click Add and create the Civ2MP setting with 4993 etc

I think that's all but I might have forgotten something.

	04-01-2004 10:07									#9
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quote: Originally posted by rah Hmmmmmmmm.

I meant my wife and Benji

	09-01-2004 22:36									#10
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The guide above was to help Eyes, who had a dsl modem/router with a hardware firewall. It will help anyone else with that setup.

However some people here with problems may have a software firewall and a USB modem. XP has an inbuilt software firewall IIRC. In this case you just need to tell your software firewall not to block data arriving on port 4993. It looks like that was Deity's solution.

	09-01-2004 23:48									#11
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About time you showed up.

	10-01-2004 23:48									#12
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Thanks for all the help. Our network guy was over last night and fixed all the problems. I know have connections for up to five machines in my basement to make those Apolyton/Civ meetings even more fun in the future. There will be no need for having to borrow my kids machines and stringing 50 foot cables to the switch.

	11-01-2004 00:05									#13
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Any time.

To be honest I doubt your network guy needed any instructions, excepting the port used. Curiously I have never seen it documented anywhere official. Of course in 1998 broadband and modem/routers with firewalls were uncommon, so I don't suppose they thought it necessary to mention it.

	11-01-2004 01:06									#14
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We fiddled around a touch before we got it.
He wouldn't listen to me.

	11-01-2004 21:35									#15
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Yeah... but it works now, and that's all that matters.
The next time we have a Apolyton meet at my house, people should bring their laptops

	12-01-2004 19:00									#16
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Hey Ming, does this mean we can now jack in your iBook and do 3 from your basement?

	12-01-2004 20:29									#17
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That should be the case now. I think up to 5.

	13-01-2004 20:53									#18
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Yes... as long as you have the game loaded on your machine, you can just plug into my switch and be assigned an IP. Up to 5 IP addresses are available in the basement now.

	13-01-2004 23:49									#19
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Hmm, maybe time to get an ethernet card for my laptop and test it.

	14-01-2004 01:06									#20
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Yeah... it should work as long as you have loaded civ on it.

I am looking forward to the next Apolyton meet at my place.

	14-01-2004 01:44									#21
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Ming -- As you know, my laptop is a non-Civ Zone. that's why I would need to use the ibook. (I know the game is loaded and that you prefer to use your "real" machine).

so one of these nights when "other games" mode is not happening...

	14-01-2004 04:17									#22
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I had civ loaded on mine, but I'd have to verify patches and such. Who knows, on a quiet night maybe all three of us could play. Maybe I'll bring it Friday and we can check it out. Do you have an extra cable? I don't since we've never hooked it up.

	14-01-2004 06:38									#23
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I have extra cables... no problem

And JR... we will miss you this week

	14-01-2004 18:36									#24
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Thanks! Yet another grain of Civ II information learned. The port number might become useful know-how in the future. Will store it in the notepad. So far I haven't needed anything, as I have static public IP addresses (that's why creating DLs isn't really a good idea, because Ming would easily bust me ) and no NAT gimmicks.

	14-01-2004 22:38									#25
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My network guy was thrilled to hear that the actual port number was identified... he said it saved him a lot of work knowing what it was. A real keeper!

	14-01-2004 22:48									#26
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I can testify it was a pain. Port scanners are better these days though.

	18-01-2004 06:27									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Yes... as long as you have the game loaded on your machine, you can just plug into my switch and be assigned an IP. Up to 5 IP addresses are available in the basement now.

Network civ is the best

	09-02-2004 11:17									#28
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finally someone else with computer problems.... you must have inherited mine, b/c i am trouble free, aside from the fact i have no time to play anymore

	16-02-2004 06:40									#29
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I can't host either. Also on XP. When I look up my IP, it says 192.168.0.6, but that doesn't appear to be right. I don't have the benefit of network guys to help me out.