09-01-2004 21:52									#31
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That one is ok........not as good as the first one though.

	09-01-2004 22:04									#32
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While anybody familiar with Civ II should be able to figure out what it is, and what it means...

But I like the concept.

	10-01-2004 07:36									#33
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The Great Raz, who was and is and is yet to be, did look down upon the Sign that The Ozzy One did make and di think unto himself, Yes this shall be the sign!!!

But then he saw the second sign, and thought unto himself, wait there is dissension amongst the people. i must impress upon my people to rise up and to kill the vile 2nd imagers, there shall be no 2nd images, only the first shall survive.

	10-01-2004 09:20									#34
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MrDiplomat is too small though. Much whitespace is wasted. Verily.

	10-01-2004 09:29									#35
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Ummmmm.........
This probably will not help, but hey, what the hell.
I lurk in the diplogames area and the imagination and energy of the posting is incredible. They also have their own unique style.
I am absolutely amazed that this style of game is not played elsewhere, as to me it fits beautifully with the role playing nature of civ.
To me, it is the one aspect of civ that will always be fresh, the emotion and drama of the nation YOU lead.
Even if you know the game backwards, you still associate with that feeling.
Oh well, back to lurking.

	10-01-2004 09:34									#36
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You shouldn't lurk, you should get in on a diplogame. And try to get others to do so too, especially in areas other than civ2-mp. I'd really like to see this take off.

	10-01-2004 11:58									#37
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP You shouldn't lurk, you should get in on a diplogame. And try to get others to do so too, especially in areas other than civ2-mp. I'd really like to see this take off.

Well once HOTW4 over Ozzy you must get Civ3 and we will berging the next chapter.......................

	11-01-2004 19:33									#38
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The dip looks kinda small, can you make one with only the dips head?

	11-01-2004 19:45									#39
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Wouldn't it defeat the object if you couldn't tell it was a diplo?

	11-01-2004 20:01									#40
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You could if you only took his head.

	11-01-2004 20:23									#41
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Well how can you distinguish a black head from a non-diplo's head?

Surely it's the whole diplo figure that people can recognise as a diplo.

Anyway the first one is better anyway.

	12-01-2004 00:30									#42
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Yea, lets just go with the D.

	12-01-2004 00:30									#43
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Unless people want to make some other designs...

	12-01-2004 02:37									#44
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The D sounds fine

	13-01-2004 05:43									#45
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So, uh, is this happening? Mr. Mark?

	19-01-2004 15:19									#46
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hmmm still waiting !!!!

	19-01-2004 17:06									#47
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Patience is a virtue.

	20-01-2004 21:10									#49
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[i told you so]
You may have missed the window of opportunity by not having one ready. To much discussion, and not enough action. But I'm sure Mark will get to at, at his first opportunity.
[/i told you so]

	20-01-2004 21:19									#50
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rah,

I think the problem falls in the "name follows form" category. Apparently, it is impossible for devotees of diplomacy to gear up for quick, decisive action. Even the "take charge" guy couldn't.

Monk

	21-01-2004 00:04									#51
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Who is the take charge guy?

	21-01-2004 00:16									#52
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Hmmm, we all thought it was you.
Obviously we were mistaken.

	21-01-2004 00:29									#53
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Oh yea, I knew that.

	21-01-2004 20:26									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Bloody Monk rah, I think the problem falls in the "name follows form" category. Apparently, it is impossible for devotees of diplomacy to gear up for quick, decisive action. Even the "take charge" guy couldn't. Monk

hmm obviouslty he never encountered a Deity attack !!!!

	21-01-2004 22:29									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin hmm obviouslty he never encountered a Deity attack !!!!

"Obviouslty", also obviously.

In time things COULD change, but as of now, the delay, the inability to make a decision (decisiveness) has not brought results. But don't lose hope. Perhaps it is just that Mark has followed diplomatic ritual. He has taken the proposal under advisement.

Good luck.

Monk

	21-01-2004 22:50									#56
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Me thinks that peopel are still confusing this particualr civ group we asking for with the Civ Democracy games...

Civ diplo style as we play has nothnig to do with decisions needing to be made, it is all about role playing the civ game .

We use modified rules and maps to more suit our style , but the general game is the same. Wars happen, sometimes with blisstering pace. Each civ is played by one player who doesnt need to get anyone elses ok to plan out his civ.

	21-01-2004 23:02									#57
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All that is well and good, Rasputin, and I think the idea sounds grand.

But, after we agree on all that, isn't it true that, even after a warning, you guys acted like Demo gamers, not able to get it done because of over much talk??

And as I said before, good luck. Your conception of a newish game style sounds very interesting.

Monk

	21-01-2004 23:33									#58
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actually not so new, been doing it for a few years now...


and actually the people arguing about our civgroup icon were none diplo people. ozzy did all the hard work and mad ethe icon and then the usual spammers came in and debated with poor ozzy and being the diplo player he is he tried to negotiate a peace settlement rather than a war. he should hav elistened to his allys and attacked early

	21-01-2004 23:50									#59
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Sorry, but I don't think so. Didn't happen that way. The commanding officer at the scene waffled and presented a second choice. Don't blame others. Doesn't speak well of your group that you get all shifty about taking responsibility.

The first image was perfect. Should have said, Thanks for the opportunity and here is our logo. Done. Finished. Hooray!!

And the idea is clearly "newish" as shown by all the requests for info about the gameplay. Is this defensiveness a common trait of Diplo gamers??

Monk

	22-01-2004 04:43									#60
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I think Raz had an accurate assessment of the situation. And as any diplogamer knows, truth is the version of history that gets posted first.

Raz isn't being defensive, he is just correcting your mistaken idea that diplogaming is new. Diplogaming has been around Apolyton longer than you have. Perhaps it is our failure of promoting it that has caused you and many others to have not heard of the genre before, but it is very widespread in the Civ2-MP forum going back several years.

Getting this civ-group is a belated attempt to correct our failure of promoting diplogaming. So hopefully Mark will get it set up for us soon.