18-01-2004 17:30									#91
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Which would account for the boulder (meteor as villain in the game) and the maniac Freddy (or rather Fred) Edison, but not for the grey devolper or the circus references. Alternatively Freddy is the character from Nightmare on Elm Street in which case it's a game involving the word "Nightmare" in some way, and I can't think of any.

	18-01-2004 17:32									#92
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Nope, we're talking about another late 80's game here.


Sum up the clues and try again...

	18-01-2004 17:35									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed Which would account for the boulder (meteorite is villain in the game) and the maniac Freddy (or rather Fred) Edison, but not for the grey devolper or the circus references. Alternatively Freddy is the character from Nightmare on Elm Street in which case it's a game involving the word "Nightmare" in some way, and I can't think of any.

That's a very nice motivation for your answer but it isn't what I'm looking for. Now, what could be the connection with Boulderdash?

	18-01-2004 17:45									#94
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Forgive me for thinking out loud.

Clue #1- Early circus reference. "The Greatest Show On Earth" is the Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey motto.

Clue #2- I interpret this as the logo of the developer being Gray, or the creator being called Gray. Bullfrog (developers of theme park) wasn't a bad guess, but their logo was B/W, not gray really.

Clue #2.5- The boulderdash connection. I admit to being stumped by this one- I don't even know who created Boulderdash in the first place.

Clue #3- "Nightmare", "Circus". Fine. Doesn't bring me any closer though.

	18-01-2004 17:51									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed Forgive me for thinking out loud. Clue #1- Early circus reference. "The Greatest Show On Earth" is the Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey motto. Clue #2- I interpret this as the logo of the developer being Gray, or the creator being called Gray. Bullfrog (developers of theme park) wasn't a bad guess, but their logo was B/W, not gray really. Clue #2.5- The boulderdash connection. I admit to being stumped by this one- I don't even know who created Boulderdash in the first place. Clue #3- "Nightmare", "Circus". Fine. Doesn't bring me any closer though.

Very good, very good...you're getting warmer (hot even!).

	18-01-2004 21:53									#96
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I'll go ahead and guess "Nightmare Circus". Chances are there's a game by that name somewhere.

	18-01-2004 21:55									#97
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(checks mobygames)

There is, but it's much younger and for a substantially different platform.

How about "Circus Nightmare" then?

	18-01-2004 23:26									#98
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Well i think there was a Chris Gray involved in boulderdash so i guess its another game he developed. Its difficult to read the screenshots in my 20 y/o copies of Computer and Video games !

Repeat after me...i must not google....

I can't think of any circus type games though other than theme park.

	19-01-2004 00:07									#99
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The period from 88 to 90 is my weakest I think- I had a c64 from 89-92 and it was hardly an up-to-date machine at the time.

Of course it's probably a really well-known game and I'll kick myself.

	19-01-2004 00:13									#100
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I only played C64 and only a small number of PC games so I can only rely on what I know about C64 games. The game I have in mind may be irrelevant, particularly because I've never played it. But I remember it was called Circus Games

Could it be the one?

	19-01-2004 02:18									#101
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Very Good! Almost there! Remember it appeared on 16 bit first.

Standup, Buck, , Ijcvetko...None of you had the right answer. All of you are hot, red hot, however!

	19-01-2004 04:44									#102
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Cool! This is one I know!!!!

Been a long time.

This game would HAVE to be Fiendish Freddy!!!!

	19-01-2004 20:30									#103
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i missed that one - probably cause clowns freak me out

Still the spectrum version looked sooooo bad compared to the amiga version i just googled(argh!) for. Throwing knives and riding uniclyces seems like a fun game though.

	20-01-2004 20:34									#104
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor i missed that one - probably cause clowns freak me out .

Clowns are evil, most children are afraid of them. Their mean evil painted serial killers.............

	20-01-2004 23:57									#105
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Cap??? I'm 95% certain of my answer.

Guys, should I start a new one?

	21-01-2004 00:11									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Dale Cool! This is one I know!!!! Been a long time. This game would HAVE to be Fiendish Freddy!!!!

DING DING DING..WE HAVE A WINNER!...APPLAUSE...

Dale, you may take the stage.

	21-01-2004 03:53									#107
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Okay, here's the next game:

Clue 1:

In '81 I was all the rage.
Continuously dubbed one of the best of the age.
Design and program me, let me fight too,
Predominately played on an Apple II.

That should be enough to get you started.

	21-01-2004 04:00									#108
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Copycat

	21-01-2004 04:41									#109
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81? Good lord.

	21-01-2004 04:46									#110
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There were games in 1981? Asteroids, or something probably.

	21-01-2004 07:00									#111
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First game that came to mind was Mail Order Monsters but that was on my C 64. My cousin was an Apple II weirdo (back then there were two camps Appleheads and Commodore owners) that had something with Robots and programming them it was called War of the Robots or something like that.

	21-01-2004 07:29									#112
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Cap:
Hahaha. Anything to keep them guessing!

Buck:
Yep, sure was in '81.

Clue 2:

Ghengis almost got my name,
But that particular one never had the fame.
To drop a name I'd say Warner,
Can Ghengis or someone get any warmer?

	21-01-2004 08:46									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Dale To drop a name I'd say Warner,

Ride of the Valkyrie? No wait, that was Wagner.

Seriously, this is out of my area of expertise without Google assistance, I was just hoping my ramblings could help someone with Apple II experience guess it.

	21-01-2004 14:36									#114
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Wasn't Castle Wolfenstein written by someone called Warner?

That said, it doesn't really fit the clue I don't think - but it's about the right time isn't it?

	21-01-2004 15:59									#115
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Clue 3:

The Duke gives a game that gave us all some kicks,
But I'm number 85 in CGW '96.
And you MUSE in your seat when it is over,
"This game seems a lot like a complex MindRover!"

There's a HEAP of clues in that one!

	21-01-2004 16:11									#116
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hmmm it wasn't 'Robotron' was it?

In 81 i was a computer virgin, only one other of my friends had a computer, and i was the one with the ZX81. And yeah it played games.............sort of

Come to think of it , most of the gaming satisfaction came from succesfuly typing up the game into the computer and getting it to run - that was reward enough, especially on that horrible keyboard........

	21-01-2004 17:54									#117
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I was born in 1981. This game is probably older than me. So it's basically a midrover type "design and program" game, but I've never played one from that era or even seen an apple II (I got my ZX81 in 1987 for ****'s sake).

	21-01-2004 23:40									#118
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Okay, here's Clue 4:

CoT says, "Is it Robotron?"
But that game starred a Human.
In my game I am a robot.
The arena was what put me on the top.

	22-01-2004 03:31									#119
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That one doesn't rhyme.

I'll guess, totally randomly (since I don't know this one), "Robot Arena". The clue seems to suggest it.

	22-01-2004 04:04									#120
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Seeing clue 3 pointing to Mindrover (robot programming) it has to do something with programming. All I can think of is Origin's Omega for the moment .