10-01-2004 02:00									#1
	Firaxis: what would they like? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Okay, we know what we believe Firaxis could like, but did anyone got the opportunity to ask them if they something specific would be useful to them?

Some spefiic polls? The community's opinion of a specific issue they'd like some feedback about? Else?

I think the energy put on the List could be more optimal if some of it was put based on Firaxis' "on the field" needs.

	10-01-2004 02:26									#2
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I have to agree. Unless a Firaxian pops in and gives us such information though, there is little we can do. Unless, Trifna, you want to start a letter writing campaign.

	10-01-2004 04:28									#3
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The Firaxis folks are at the C3C forum at least. Maybe someone should point them here, as I doubt they are capable of reading every forum(that's only possible for mods you know!).

	10-01-2004 11:26									#4
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erm... does anyone (Mark?) have the possibility to contact them and just ask them what they want? Otherwise, I do not believe alot in letter writing campaigns for some reason

	10-01-2004 13:47									#5
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There is a possibility of a Firaxian popping in here to give us a few pointers on what they want, but since such input could be misconstrued as a promise to listen to the results of such polls, I doubt they will.

Then of course is the fact that they won't know exactly what they want to know from us - there are things they won't think of that we, being a larger number of minds, will think of.

Our best bet is to discuss all aspects of the game that interest us (which will most probably be everything) and then have the results in an organised manner so that Firaxians can pick and choose what opinions they want to look into. We know they read the forums, so provided the information is easy to access, this should fulfill our goal.

I would love to be proven wrong and have a Firaxian post here though.

	10-01-2004 19:25									#6
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damn if we only get to discu8ss firaxis ideas, we wont get to listen to 16 million zany comments ........

	10-01-2004 20:50									#7
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It would help to eventually have a few things told to us, to narrow down our discussion. But it's possible that even Firaxis hasn't decided on the "big issues."

	10-01-2004 22:00									#8
	Re: Firaxis: what would they like? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Our money.

	11-01-2004 06:52									#9
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Of course, what do you expect?

	11-01-2004 07:05									#10
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But to get our money, they need to deliver a product similar to what the majority of us want, which leads us back to letting them know what we want...

	11-01-2004 07:05									#11
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The 2-piece lego set that is civ3 shows little use of the last List.

	11-01-2004 07:14									#12
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Nah, Maq. I think it's obvious that they actually like Civ3. I mean, why would they keep making and patching it if they could just as easily make money by any other means?

	11-01-2004 07:23									#13
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Hey im not gonna get into another flame war on civ general, but i wouldnt expect any word from Firaxis here on civ4 until they want to make fixes for it. (hopefully theyll prove me wrong, but what do i matter)

	11-01-2004 07:25									#14
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I wonder to which extent they want the List, and espescially what they wish to do with it. It could change the way we do it, to some extent.

	12-01-2004 07:59									#15
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Why don't you just send a really short PM to one of the Firaxis Employees, such as Soren on his apolyton screen name- that would probably be the least intrusive way to do so, Trifna

Personally, I'm content to sit back and not bother them until they officially announce the game

	12-01-2004 13:28									#16
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Well the message goes no where when I put "Soren" as a recipient. Can you just send me some Firaxis name through the IM? Perhaps we should wait for them to announce the game though, as you say...

	13-01-2004 00:10									#17
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Not a surprise. Imagine how many PMs those guys would get if they bothered to receive them. You could always throw a letter into the dark abyss of whatever e-mail address Firaxis has on their homepage.

	13-01-2004 01:08									#18
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I think that this thread has better chances

Should such a thread be sticky for a while when/IF (!) we get an official anouncement? It doesn't really cost anything, except a bit of space.

I also wonder if Firaxis aren't a bit afraid to admit that the List wasn't THAT useful (because maybe they rather wished to bring their own vision of civ). It's sometimes a matter of public relations.

Last edited by Trifna on 13-01-2004 at 01:31

	13-01-2004 09:24									#19
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no, you see. His login is Soren Johnson FIRAXIS... all the firaxis employees have logins... Dan Mahaga FIRAXIS used to post here (But I think he's left the company) and so have some others ask some of the Civ III section regulars- they can give you a list of names.

	13-01-2004 10:34									#20
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Why not post something in the C3C forum with attn:firaxis in the headline. If I were you, I would get someone they are very familiar with, a former (current) beta tester or someone similar. I can think of a few names off the top of my head that would draw their attention (no offense intended for the fine people here of course )

	13-01-2004 11:01									#21
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I think that could work.

	14-01-2004 23:53									#22
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asleepathewheel: Well just give me the names and so on. I already have an all-made message for Firaxis. I just wonder if we should wait an official anuncement, since maybe Firaxis just CAN'T answer in the meantime.

	15-01-2004 00:21									#23
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I've sent you a pm.

Good luck in your endeavors, I hope that you aren't terribly dissapointed by lack of communication with firaxis.

	15-01-2004 08:37									#24
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Well, they DO visit the forums here

Jeff Morris_FIRAXIS comes by every so often at the Civ III secton, IF I remember correctly

even though they get flamed from time to time for putting out an inferior product

	15-01-2004 14:44									#25
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Well I'll wait for an official announcement and then just send a short message proposing them to say what they'd prefer.

PS: Thx for the PM :P

	15-01-2004 20:57									#26
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That's probably the best solution