11-01-2004 01:08									#1
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We should have a specific forum dedicated to history. A good model would be chris's history forum at FFZ.

1. OT is too cluttered and threads get lost after a few days. At FFZ, the history stuff stays around for a while and the quality of the essays deserves that.

2. We would have more traffic than FFZ...and some people don't like the political slant there...so our own frum would be good.

3. Civ is very history oriented.

	11-01-2004 01:12									#2
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I second it, there are some very good discussions on CFC history forum from time to time, and suprisingly they remeain relatively serious and academic.

It might keep history people from threadjacking current events topics (guilty...)

	11-01-2004 01:19									#3
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I am with it aswell! Though just one pan-historical forum, several for time periods would be excessive.

	11-01-2004 01:24									#4
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Good idea. Let's do it.

	11-01-2004 01:29									#5
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Sure, though its never going to happen.

	11-01-2004 01:41									#6
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I've argued passionately for this many times. Unfortunately, it would be considered to be another "off topic" forum as it's unconnected to the gaming industry.

Seeing as "off topic" issues are held by certain key figures as being about as welcome as a flask of nitroglycerine in a vibrator, don't hold your breath.

	11-01-2004 01:46									#7
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nitroglycerine in a vibrater? Sounds like an explosive orgasm to me


Yeah, i think i have seen the issue dismissed a few times myself

	11-01-2004 01:47									#8
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Laz...you are a ray of sunshine. We could try it and see how it works.

The one in FFZ is pretty decent actually. Besides stories are OT and they are out of here. And history is near and dear to y'all armchair generals hearts. If there is some spam/post count issue, make it no post count or make it moderated by a hardass, I mean MTG or both.

	11-01-2004 01:50									#9
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History has a direct link with Civ though, so I think it is not really OT so to speak.

	11-01-2004 01:53									#10
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the problem with OT is its here for people to have a winge about something usually

History threads can die if posted at just the wrong moment

	11-01-2004 02:00									#11
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man the problem with OT is its here for people to have a winge about something usually History threads can die if posted at just the wrong moment

I would rather they were in a forum with slower torunover. And if we could get essays like chris does that would be great. I think it would be even better than chris's site since we have more traffic here and there would be more discussion.

i could go over as an emmisary to ask him to host a history forum. Maybe if we made it so that he only had to be there, he wouldn't get so pissed off at 16 year old computer geeks saying that WTC deserved to happen.

Plus, he would fulfill the twin mod missions of being a hardass and knowing history. If he stayed in professional mode, then maybe the conflicts with OTers would not be an issue.

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But it is not all around Chris. There are others who could do a good job there. MTG as a start. Or Mr. Fun (serious).

	11-01-2004 02:09									#12
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quote: Originally posted by TCO Laz...you are a ray of sunshine. We could try it and see how it works. Besides stories are OT and they are out of here.

Note that there's no "general fiction". Only SMAC fiction, Civ3 fiction and other gaming-related fiction.

I've also asked about a stand-alone fiction forum. Guess what the response was.

	11-01-2004 02:13									#13
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such a pity... i take it the NES forums have gone...

	11-01-2004 02:14									#14
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maybe we could do some sort of petition?

like try to get 33% of regular poly users to say they want one. I mean, history forums would definatly help scenario makers for a start.

	11-01-2004 02:16									#15
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There's a history forum at CFC.

	11-01-2004 02:16									#16
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I think this thread should move to the community forum before it's killed.

	11-01-2004 02:19									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Note that there's no "general fiction". Only SMAC fiction, Civ3 fiction and other gaming-related fiction. I've also asked about a stand-alone fiction forum. Guess what the response was.

Hey quit trying to drag everything into the same mud. Maybe they will do it for me cause they like me better. Be a bud, ok. think positive!!!

	11-01-2004 02:20									#18
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i wouldn't post there myself, but i'd lurk there for sure...

and it would be an asset to the scenario community, wouldn't it?

	11-01-2004 02:24									#19
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first topic will be the Striker Warriors

	11-01-2004 02:38									#20
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Yes, I'd like a history forum too, but I'm afraid I can't see it happening. It was suggested in the community forum over a year ago and despite there being a substantial amount of interest, it was shot down then.

	11-01-2004 02:44									#21
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stop being negative. Let's try it and see how it does.

	11-01-2004 02:44									#22
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stop being negative. Let's try it and see how it does.

	11-01-2004 02:50									#23
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If I come out strongly against this it might just stand a chance...

I >>>DEMAND<<< NO history forum!!! Definately GP MUST NOT be the mod!!!

It's outrageous.


There ya go GP, best I could do for ya.

	11-01-2004 03:06									#24
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this thread should be in the apoly community forum

but my opinion is that you won't find a better
History Forum than the one at FFZ.

there are some really interesting threads started there.
Chris does an awesome job of starting intelligent and interesting history topics. i don't post much since i don't know a lot about most of the topics but i do read it quiet often.

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	11-01-2004 03:10									#25
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"this thread should be in the apoly community forum"

I suggest it be immediatly moved to a newly formed history forum.

	11-01-2004 03:13									#26
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No it should be moved to the community first. Respect the procedures.

	11-01-2004 03:16									#27
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Lurking in history-forum would be more enjoyable because of the possible higher quality of the posts... I'd be for a specific history-forum, but the way I've understood it, ACS is already having too many users and too many users -- so Administrators don't want to encourage the forum to grow with such actions.

So probably we aren't going to see it. And I can live with that.

	11-01-2004 03:18									#29
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quote: Originally posted by VJ Lurking in history-forum would be more enjoyable because of the possible higher quality of the posts... I'd be for a specific history-forum, but the way I've understood it, ACS is already having too many users and too many users -- so Administrators don't want to encourage the forum to grow with such actions. So probably we aren't going to see it. And I can live with that.

If Markos would a proper capitalist entrepeneur he'd see dollars bills in such a forum so he'd create it.

	11-01-2004 03:21									#30
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"If Markos would a proper capitalist entrepeneur he'd see dollars bills in such a forum so he'd create it."

It's a fansite, not a cash cow. No matter how hard they try.