12-01-2004 02:08									#1
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Urgent Business

- I have sent an official peace proposal to RP with the save. I believe they wanted something in writing and not just an in-game offer. Let's see their response.

- Imperial City. What will its role be? I switched production to Cathedral but frankly I'd like to put a Granary (3 turns) and use it as a unit/settler pump taking advantage of its 4 food per turn and the fact that it is already at size 12 and cannot grow any more. IC can crank out Riders and Musketmen in 3 turns each.

- ND Workers. I don't know if ND gave us any official orders for the workers we are sending them or if we are deciding where to use them (all I know is they want it around Tripolli). I will e-mail ND about this.



And finally, an apology.

Those of you in the ISDG already know, but for those who don't, I just moved to a new house here in Puebla and they did not have the broadband connected until yesterday and thus was internet-less for four days. My college is open but only for inscriptions since classes haven't started so I couldn't use the PCs there either, and the only internet cafe around here was closed during the holidays, thus I had no way of announcing my absence. I hope this will not happen again.

-MZ

	12-01-2004 10:23									#2
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ask ND for orders (you have a stack of 6 right?)

	12-01-2004 22:03									#3
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Make sure you check science slider.

I'd agree with Panzer, just ask ND for orders for the workers. If not go to the nearest jungle to tripoli and chop away.

Aggie

	13-01-2004 02:40									#4
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quote: I believe they wanted something in writing and not just an in-game offer. Let's see their response.

Ok...

What exactly? We offer peace. Are they wanting to attach something else onto it?

Ah, hell, I will likely see BigFree tonight anyway...

	15-01-2004 03:32									#5
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Nope, after chatting with a few of them, I don't think they are going to let go of driving the WW stake into our heart unless we buy them off with tech, land on Bob, or something.

Perhaps we can do a Luxury/resource embargo with ND against GS/Roleplay until they make peace. If GS starts putting pressure on them they might give in.

	15-01-2004 05:25									#6
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Embargo GS.

Lego/Vox/ND will all agree to it.

	15-01-2004 05:36									#7
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give 'em some time. Plus we have no WW anyway...

Togas and Arnelos seem to be in favor of peace, they're just trying to get their hardliners into reason. Btw, we have the turn, I'm playing it now

	15-01-2004 06:11									#8
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question (for anyone who might check in here in the next 5-10 minutes),

if there is a forest tile equidistant from 2 cities will the city which is working that tile get the shields from the chop? What if the cities are 1.5 and 1 distance away?

	15-01-2004 06:16									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen give 'em some time. Plus we have no WW anyway...

Arnelos and Togas seem to be the ones encouraging the maintenance of the WW. I would rather stop WW before it starts than wait until we're loosing citizens and towns due to unhappiness.

Roleplay doesn't have a record for being straight and honest about their intentions or deals.

	15-01-2004 06:49									#10
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General

- WM + 70g accepted from ND. WM sent.
- Peace offered to RP

- Slider Changed to 6.4.0 (from 3.7.0). Will only lose -8 and get Chemistry next turn



Military

- Hillman Guard moves to Irongard and forts
- Galley Old Ironsides moves E-E-NE
- Galley Death's Head moves SW-SW-W
- All southern Riders forted


Work Force

- Plague City changed to 2-4-7-8-14*
- Imperial City changed to 1-2-4-5-6-8-9-10-14-16-17-20
- Trafalgar changed to 1-2-3-4-9-10-11-12*

* These changes are for only this turn these cities will finish their production and need some food

Workers

- New worker from Camp Cod renamed "Worker Yang"

- Worker Nader moves E-SE
- Desolate Worker moves E, mines
- Zen Worker Zen Mines
- Camul Worker roads
- Worker Blockhead I moves E-SE-E
- Worker Blockhead II mvoes E-E-E
- Republic Worker 2 mines
- Worker Yang moves S and mines
- Worker Oats mines
- Worker Skulgaria roads
- Worker Cattle Rancher roads
- Wilderness Worker mines

- Slave Workers (SR, Shibering, unnamed) move SE (on ND orders)
- Workers

	15-01-2004 07:53									#12
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Hmmm ..

3rd in land size.....GS looks bigger..obviously not

3rd in MFG & GNP
I assume ND is 4th ? Can we ask them ?

I guess GS will eventually drop off.
They may have a forbidden palace in place, but their plans to do a Palace Jump are stuffed.
Unless they complete another invasion.

We still have 30 turns until our Forbidden Palace.

Did I miss what ND did with their Great Leader ?
An instant FP in old RP territory will make them a power.
Perhaps in Pampalona ?

	15-01-2004 08:23									#13
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Send GS a firmly worded letter, we know from the intersite demogame that most of GS see this as an exploit(the no peace thing). Basically shame them into letting us take out RP or doing it themselves.
Aggie

	15-01-2004 20:04									#14
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I spoke briefly with Arnelos,

They are going to accept it, but want to chat and make it 'official'...whatever that means.

	16-01-2004 00:00									#15
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ND is likely 4th in most accounts