12-01-2004 04:52									#1
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hi everybody
I have a problem with civ2. It doesn't want to work with xp eventhough i told it to run with win 98 compatibility (even tried with 95)
it seems there is a problem with wing.dll. I tried to put the file mùyself in the windows\system repertory but don't work still. Please help me i die to play to civ 2

	12-01-2004 13:22									#2
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You need to get the latest WinG and Indeo drivers to run under XP - I believe they are available from the Microsoft site...

Stu

	14-01-2004 18:43									#3
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I have just loaded Civ2 & Civ2MP onto my spanking brand new Win XP (Home) laptop ...

Civ2 plays straight out of the box with no Cd - falls over with the standard ir41.dll error with the cd - get the indeo (4) codecs from the web ) game runs smooth as silk - only problem does not report how many shields needed after a camel goes into a WoW ... cannot load popup error - but who cares -- all features heralds, advisors, wows etc working fine...

Stu

	14-01-2004 18:56									#4
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So (in a spirit of pure interest only ), you can install Civ 2 from the CD fine, but if you try to play with the CD in the drive then it gives you errors?

	14-01-2004 20:33									#5
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Stu,

Happiness is a new computer; congratulations and many rip roaring sessions to follow....

There doesn't seem to be any logic to those gliches except a bad install or a bad CD. Get all the fingerprints from the years of use off the CD and reinstall. Sounds silly, I know, but it may help. Hope so anyway.

Monk

	14-01-2004 20:38									#6
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I'm still waiting for my laptop to arrive!
I forgot to bring the confirmation print-out from my order into work today so I can't check how it's getting on, but I'm expecting it at the end of this week/beginning of next.

I remember being told that happiness was a warm gun, but I am happy to compromise with a new computer.

	14-01-2004 20:54									#7
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duke,

As I got older I found that the warmth of the gun did not matter so much.

YOUR milage may vary....

Monk

	14-01-2004 23:11									#8
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appears to be ... indeo 451

Stu

Attachment: indeo451.zip
This has been downloaded 16 time(s).

	14-01-2004 23:31									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits appears to be ... indeo 451 Stu

What are you saying?? YOU are missing this file?? This file CAUSED the problem??

Monk

	15-01-2004 00:51									#10
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delana, there is a thread about the Wing problems:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...&threadid=24057

I hope it will be useful for you

	15-01-2004 01:04									#11
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I 've downloaded the files from somewhere else than the indeo site... why should i pay for a game that i baught and was working good ( and they wonder why people are using p2p?)
And i changed the wing.dll and now it's working perfectly. I didn't tried with the cd butwho needs it?
I knew when i discovered the apolyton site that i did found a rare pearl. Thank you to Stu who gave the good answer (and plus very fast )and to everybody working or contributuing to the site.

	15-01-2004 01:10									#12
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Welcome to the comunity, then!

You can download patches to convert your version to either FW or MGE version, and you can join the multiple kind of games there:

- The sucession games in the Civ2-General
- The PBEMs games in the Civ2-PBEMs
- The progressive games in the Hosted Site-Spanish Site (they're played in English )
- The early landing games
- The demogames (one generic, one Red Front demogame, and one [shameless plug]very fun Exodus demogame[/shamelessplus]

and much more

EDITED: To add the demogames!

	15-01-2004 13:44									#13
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Welcome delano - you will enjoy life here

Monk - no this is the indeo fix file - you got the wrong end of the stick - my system is working fine now having overcome a few small initial irritations.

delano again - yes it is seriously irritating that indeo are no charging for their material - but the codecs (which is all we need) are available free from third party sources - sounds rather like a falling out between intel and indeo ...

Stu

	16-01-2004 01:04									#14
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* Straybow notes potential XP problems; d/l file in advance just in case.

	16-01-2004 14:09									#15
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Yes - I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this thread for when my laptop arrives. Annoyingly, Dell's website order tracker thingummybob now tells me that the projected delivery date is now a week away! I ordered it on 30th December, and it's being built in Ireland so God knows why it's taking so long. Maybe they haven't researched Mass Production yet.... Or the specifications I chose were really odd.

	17-01-2004 15:39									#16
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york .... Or the specifications I chose were really odd.

I rather fancy it's the USB2 Crusader Spear Sharpener that's causing the delay - I got mine separately from 'Crooks R Us'

	17-01-2004 20:35									#17
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Not the hyperdrive module for instant arrival on AC??



Monk

	18-01-2004 23:09									#18
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I loaded Civ MP, and then installed the latest patch on my new machine running XP, and I've had no problems with the game. However, I did need to make some changes and open a port to be able to host games.

Otherwise, I haven't run into any of the problems being mentioned... and it was a pleasent surprise since I was expecting the worse.

	19-01-2004 14:26									#19
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I went for the lances with the crusaders, but maybe because I asked for the buy one, get free ironclad special offer, it may take a while to reach Leeds by canal. Apparently it "shipped" on Saturday, so I'm expecting it this week - which is handy because my girlfriend has the week off and can collect it at home.
Speaking of my girlfriend, I love her. And for an extra reason this week. We were out in York on Saturday and we went into Virgin to get her brother a CD for his birthday (Verdi, if you must know). On the way out, she pointed at the stand in the doorway showing their sale items - directly to Civ 3 for £20. I've already got it, but it's on long-term loan to one of my friends because it doesn't work on my girlfriend's PC, but it's the thought that counts!

	19-01-2004 15:21									#20
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Marry the girl quickly - before she escapes!

	22-01-2004 14:15									#21
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Not a bad idea - if a bit expensive.

Right, I'm back in the techie thread for more advice. Fortunately, I already had the Indeo codecs installed already, which is a boon, but now have the opposite problem to delana. I have installed MGE, and everything is fine, but it won't let me play unless I've got the CD in the drive. I've tried uninstalling it and reinstalling the different versions (compact and normal installations) a few times, but every time I go to start the game it asks me for the CD. I managed to install it fine onto my girlfriend's PC when she was on holiday, and didn't need the CD, so what has happened here? This is XP home, by the way, and not her Windows 98.

[edit] Oh yeah, there's another enormous problem. Well, not enormous, but really irritating. I loaded up the Sailing game to make sure that everything was working all right, and to take stock of the situation before playing my turns, and since there isn't a number keypad, it took ages to work out how to make units move diagonally. Since I didn't want to confine myself to just playing Silly Rules games, I tried to work out which keys would be used. Using the number lock and the keys indicated for the keypad didn't work, and eventually (after plenty of reloads so as not to spoil the game ) I found that the diagonal directions are on the keys immediately above the arrow keys. But not in any decent order! So Page down is diagonally right and downwards, and End is diagonally up and left. Or something. Is there anyway that I can change the set-up of the keys for movement as the mouse takes far too long? I don't want to lose any of the keys that actually do something, so I definitely don't want to press b to move a settler and end up founding a new Middlesbrough. Other than learning which keys go where (which I fear I may have to do anyway), what can I do about this? [/edit]

Last edited by duke o' york on 22-01-2004 at 14:24

	22-01-2004 20:45									#22
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I believe, duke, that you have to have the CD to start MP but once started you can play w/o the CD. It may be that any CD will do if you have saved all the files to your HD. Apparently the game is coded to check for a CD before it will start. I may not be remembering this part exactly, but someone will know.

You don't have a numeric keypad on your new special order computer?? I think you have three choices. Continue with whatever that is that you described; create some keyboard shortcuts that are more convenient; or, try to attach a standard keyboard to your new one.

Good luck.

Monk

	22-01-2004 21:01									#23
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MGE has always needed a CD. I bet you had installed a no-CD patch earlier.

About the keys, there's no way to change them... PgUp, PgDn, End and Home should correspond to the four corners of the numpad (the keys there usually also mention those names). In that order that would be: Upper-right, lower-right, lower-left, upper-left.

And you've tried the numeric pad with Num Lock both on and off, I hope?

Just checking, do you know that you can move your units with the mouse by clicking and holding? If you hold the mouse button for a little while, the cursor changes to the GoTo function. Of course we all know GoTo is flawed, but it works wonders in short "bursts".

X-Post

	22-01-2004 21:19									#24
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I know about the mouse - I even said that it took too long.
I guess that I'll just have to persevere with learning which keys go where. I mentioned using the number lock, but this just menas that you can't use the build city or fortify unit keys until they're unlocked - it doesn't move the unit.
Thanks for your help though!

	22-01-2004 23:23									#25
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Oh gee, there IS another alternative -- I've seen new keyboards for as little as $3 American.

	23-01-2004 02:02									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Mercator MGE has always needed a CD. I bet you had installed a no-CD patch earlier.

If you had a no-CD patch and then ran one of the update patches, you have to run the no-cd patch again.

	23-01-2004 03:28									#27
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My laptop allows full movement with numlock on - but yes it screws up the rhs of the keyboard...

Stu

	23-01-2004 03:30									#28
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... and I believe the CD check looks simply for an optical drive that contains :civ2\civ2.exe this file need not contain anything of interest..

Stu

	23-01-2004 14:07									#29
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I've got one of those flash drive thingies that I use to stick .savs on from 'poly. If I copied the .exe file onto that, would I be able to play without the CD?
Will the computer check for the CD periodically, or is it only when you first turn it on?
I'll probably grab the no-CD patch anyway, while I'm here.
Thanks everyone.
I'm not planning to get a separate keyboard though.

	23-01-2004 19:24									#30
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It only checks at startup, although Civ2 does seem to slow down on occasion on moments when it would usually try to access the CD (e.g. to play wonder movies or play a music track). Most notably when you start up a game, it tends to kinda hang for a second or two.

I'm not sure if that flash drive will work, but there's no harm in trying. You'll have to adjust the civ.ini though. And if the flash drive isn't too big, you can simply create an empty file called civ2.exe on it too, as SG implied (no need to waste several megs of space).