13-01-2004 19:29									#1
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Here is what is posted thus far. Only three teams have posted and it is now due friday.

Summarized:

(1)CGN chooses:
1. Celts
2. Mayans
3. Dutch

(2)CDG's Choices:
1. Vikings
2. Maya
3. Celts

(3)The People's Army of the Ladder chooses:

1. Maya
2. Sumeria
3. Netherlands

(4)GWT chooses:

1. China
2. Persia
3. Ottomans

(5)Civilization Fanatics Center choices:

1. Maya
2. Japan
3. Persia

(6)Apolyton's choices:

1. Greece
2. Maya
3. Rome

(7)GCA chooses:

1. Vikings
2. Carthage
3. Romans

(8)CDZ chooses:

1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Sumerians


(9)Batrachos prefered Civs are:

1. Sumerian
2. Celt
3. Mayan




Edited by BigFree to include Civ choices of more teams

Last edited by BigFree on 18-01-2004 at 02:07

	14-01-2004 10:00									#2
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Yep. Figures the MP ladder would go for Ind and Agri. They know what those traits mean vs humans.

For what it is worth, here is the summary of the recently closed polls here.

34 Greeks 7x3, 6x2, 1x1
31 Iroquois 7x3, 3x2, 4x1
24 Romans 6x3, 2x2, 2x1
17 Carthaginians 1x3, 6x2, 2x1
17 Mayans 3x3, 1x2, 6x1
09 Sumerians 1x3, 2x2, 2x1
05 Celts 2x2, 1x1
03 Persians 1x2, 1x1
02 Zulus 2x1
01 Aztecs 1x1
01 Ottomans 1x1

	15-01-2004 00:40									#3
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Updated with GWT choices

	15-01-2004 06:23									#4
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Wait a second - why aren't all civ choices available on the polls? I could understand if we excluded civs that were already taken, but we haven't done that...

	15-01-2004 07:20									#5
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Wait a second - why aren't all civ choices available on the polls? I could understand if we excluded civs that were already taken, but we haven't done that...

OFF Topic = 2week ban

	15-01-2004 07:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 OFF Topic = 2week ban

Don't make me play with the spellZ I accidentally have over this forum...

	15-01-2004 08:29									#7
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Don't make me play with the spellZ I accidentally have over this forum...

OH crap your a mod!

Jeez have I been out of touch

	18-01-2004 02:59									#8
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Here's a summary and listing of what has been picked so far:

How many picks for each Civ:

Carthage: 1
Celts: 4
China: 1
Dutch: 2
Greece: 1
Iroquois: 1
Japan: 1
Mayans: 6
Ottomans: 1
Persians: 2
Romans: 2
Sumerians: 3
Vikings: 2

Ditributed by pick order:

1st Carthage: -
2nd Carthage: 1
3rd Carthage: -

1st Celts: 1
2nd Celts: 2
3rd Celts: 1

1st China: 1
2nd China: -
3rd China: -

1st Dutch: -
2nd Dutch: -
3rd Dutch: 2

1st Greece: 1
2nd Greece: -
3rd Greece: -

1st Iroquois: 1
2nd Iroquois: -
3rd Iroquois: -

1st Japan: -
2nd Japan: 1
3rd Japan: -

1st Mayans: 2
2nd Mayans: 3
3rd Mayans: 1

1st Ottomans: -
2nd Ottomans: -
3rd Ottomans: 1

1st Persians: -
2nd Persians: 1
3rd Persians: 1

1st Romans: -
2nd Romans: -
3rd Romans: 2

1st Sumerians: 1
2nd Sumerians: 1
3rd Sumerians: 1

1st Vikings: 2
2nd Vikings: -
3rd Vikings: -


Mayans and Vikings were the only Civs choosen as the 1st choice by 2 or more Civs.

Maya: Choosen as 1st pick by CFC and The Ladder

CFC's 2nd choice is Japan which no one else choose.

The Ladders' 2nd choice is Summeria which is the 1st choice of the Batrachos team. The Ladder's 3rd choice is Dutch which was only a 3rd choice for CGN. So, if the Ladder loses the toss, they get their 3rd choice of the Dutch.

So, if CFC wins the toss, then CFC are the Mayans and The Ladder will be the Dutch.

If the Ladder wins then they get the Mayans and CFC gets Japan.

Vikings: Choosen as 1st pick by CDG and GCA.

CDG's 2nd choice are the Mayan's which are already taken by either CFC or the Ladder teams. CDG's 3rd choice are the Celts which is the 1st pick for CGN. So, none of CDG's 2nd or 3rd pick are available if CDG does not get it's 1st pick.

GCA's 2nd pick is Carthage which noone else choose at all and so is available for GCA.

The logical thing to do would be to give CDG their 1st choice and GCA their 2nd choice since both CDG's 2nd and 3rd choices are already taken and would mean that CDG woud have to choose a 4th Civ.

That said, this is how I think things will line out:

1. CGN: Celts(1st)
2. CDG: Vikings(1st)
3. Ladder: Mayans(1st) or Dutch(3nd) (coin toss with CFC)
4. GWT: China(1st)
5. CFC: Mayans(1st) or Japan(2nd) (coin toss with Ladder)
6. Apolyton: Greece(1st)
7. GCA: Carthage(2nd)
8. CDZ: Iroquois(1st)
9. Batrachos: Summerians(1st)

Of course, whoever that 10th team is can come in and mess things up.

	18-01-2004 03:14									#9
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Or, we make sure that GCA and CDG are in seperate games for the first round as would CFC and the Ladder teams be seperated. That way, all teams get their first choices.

Round 1 Game A

1. CFC
2. GCA or CDG
3. any team remaining
4. any team remaining
5. any team remaining

Round 1 Game B

1. Ladder
2. CDG or GCA
3. any team remaining
4. any team remaining
5. any team remaining

EDIT: The missing choices seem to be from team: Civ3 Brasil

	18-01-2004 04:40									#10
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Yep. Figures the MP ladder would go for Ind and Agri. They know what those traits mean vs humans.

and were like the only team that has neither...

Well dont matter because all we need to do is survive. Looks like most teams chose UU that arent in ancient age though..

	18-01-2004 04:43									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Zero and were like the only team that has neither... Well dont matter because all we need to do is survive. Looks like most teams chose UU that arent in ancient age though..

Just because we chose Greece for this game doesn't mean we have to choose it for the second game when we make it there. Greece was a choice designed to get us to the second game when it really matters. EDIT: I'm not trying to say the first game doesn't matter, just that the whole point of the first game is to merely survive, not to win.

	18-01-2004 20:23									#12
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Has there been any talk about being able to change your civ in the second round?

	18-01-2004 22:52									#13
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Is there a system for sorting out the Civ Choices?

	19-01-2004 01:34									#14
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing Has there been any talk about being able to change your civ in the second round?

Good point. We should probably bring this up now.

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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Is there a system for sorting out the Civ Choices?

Not really. It is up to the Admins. But, everyone seems to like the idea of splitting up CFC/Ladder and CDG/GCA and letting everyone get their first pick. I'm pretty sure the Admins will follow suit.

	19-01-2004 13:45									#16
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Great!

* BigFurryMonster brushes up his Greek language skills.

	19-01-2004 22:52									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Just because we chose Greece for this game doesn't mean we have to choose it for the second game when we make it there. Greece was a choice designed to get us to the second game when it really matters. EDIT: I'm not trying to say the first game doesn't matter, just that the whole point of the first game is to merely survive, not to win.

ur right. the "greek fraternity of apolyton" doesnt sound so bad when you put it that way. We would defintely get the chance to change civ because some teams have the same civ and it would conflict should both survive anyway.

go greeks~

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	20-01-2004 11:41									#18
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The second game has not been discussed much at all and really hasn't been discussed for a while (since before Xmass).

But the abriged version of the direction of the conversation I remember was that we chose everything again the second time around.

Since it is 6 vice 10 teams chosing that would seem only fair anyway.

	20-01-2004 21:00									#19
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Besides, our grandchildren who will most likely play the second game may like the Greek Civ. If we're playing Civ 5 by then the Greeks may be the superior civ to play.

	21-01-2004 21:09									#20
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Thanks Ghengis, Civ 5 Woo Hoo, so we may here for a while then...

(How come there is no set of Homer Smilies available )

*heads off to the cellar to see to the next delivery*

	22-01-2004 00:34									#21
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Besides, our grandchildren who will most likely play the second game may like the Greek Civ. If we're playing Civ 5 by then the Greeks may be the superior civ to play.

Nah. By the time we play 2nd game there will be no civilization. All historical records will be forgotten.

	22-01-2004 01:33									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Zero Nah. By the time we play 2nd game there will be no civilization. All historical records will be forgotten.

What are you talking about? By the time game 2 rolls around civilization will have migrated to Alpha Centauri due to World War 1 on Mars!