17-01-2004 10:26									#1
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Best stuff on earth. You;ll never encounter anyone as capable of encompassing the grand sweep of human emotion and experience in music.

Listen. Learn. Love. Dear lord...

	17-01-2004 10:49									#2
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So it´s not Brahms anymore?

What do you recommend from Mahler for an amateur in classic music like me?

	17-01-2004 10:58									#3
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Brahms is still great, no doubt.

Mahler? Start with the 1st, of course.

But the 6th is his dark masterpiece. Shattering.

	17-01-2004 11:05									#4
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Thanks, great one

	17-01-2004 11:20									#5
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The 6th is phenomenal. The finale is simply a brilliant work...utterly gut-wrenching catastrophe. The three hammer blows should send anyone cowering. If this one doesn' t move you, you're hopeless.

	17-01-2004 11:45									#6
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never heard of him.

But i'll see what I can find.

	17-01-2004 11:48									#7
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP never heard of him.

Wha?????!!!!!

Gustav Mahler!

	17-01-2004 11:49									#8
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I know Norman Mahler.

	17-01-2004 11:52									#9
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That's Norman Mailer, you philistine!

	17-01-2004 12:04									#10
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Yeah, Bill Maher is pretty funny

	17-01-2004 12:37									#11
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Shouldn't you be listening to the Pet Shop Boys?

	17-01-2004 12:39									#12
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The classical section at the K-mart here is sadly lacking.

Even sadder is the fact that K-mart is the best place in this town to buy music...

	17-01-2004 12:43									#13
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So, is this like the Miami Mahler in that American Wrestling Federation?

Or is it the lead singer of Brit 80s horrorfest boyband, LiMahler?

Or the Turkish version, KeMahler Ataturk?

Or the Afghani one, Babrak KeMahler ?

Or the Russian drink, Mahlertov Cocktail ?

Is it the Filipino state residency, the Mahlercanang Palace?

Or the victory of Marlborough over the French, Mahlerplaquet?

	17-01-2004 12:45									#14
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You won't never go to New York, will you?

	17-01-2004 12:49									#15
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither You won't never go to New York, will you?

I might be tempted to follow up with really cheesy Brahms puns, but the slushy romantic slop he came out with is punishment enough.

(Waits for Godunovian explosion..................)

	17-01-2004 13:14									#16
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I suspect you won't wait long.

	17-01-2004 13:54									#17
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Damn, too late for my Norman Mailer "misunderstanding".

	17-01-2004 15:09									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Best stuff on earth. You;ll never encounter anyone as capable of encompassing the grand sweep of human emotion and experience in music. Listen. Learn. Love. Dear lord...

quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov The 6th is phenomenal. The finale is simply a brilliant work...utterly gut-wrenching catastrophe. The three hammer blows should send anyone cowering. If this one doesn' t move you, you're hopeless.

Probably the only point of agreement I've ever had with Boris.

	17-01-2004 18:56									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Swissy Probably the only point of agreement I've ever had with Boris.

Hey, and I learned you can be right about something at least. We've both learned.

	17-01-2004 18:58									#20
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom I might be tempted to follow up with really cheesy Brahms puns, but the slushy romantic slop he came out with is punishment enough. (Waits for Godunovian explosion..................)

Meh. Considering your professed preferences for clothing styles, grooming products and music, I'm comfortable enough with your extremely bad taste to not put much stock in it.

And even Brahms haters wouldn't refer to it as "slushy romantic slop." I mean, we're talking Brahms here, who's the picture of classical austerity and structural rigor.

	17-01-2004 19:41									#21
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Mahler is good. I was into him in college.

	17-01-2004 19:56									#22
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But his symphonies are so long, you'd have been changing the victrola all day.

	17-01-2004 20:14									#23
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We had CDs before most college students. USNA mids get paid salaries.

	17-01-2004 21:02									#24
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Since when is learning to kill people in creative ways a college education?

	17-01-2004 21:06									#25
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Teach us oh Great Boris, as we are poor peasants only

	17-01-2004 21:14									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Best stuff on earth. You;ll never encounter anyone as capable of encompassing the grand sweep of human emotion and experience in music. Listen. Learn. Love. Dear lord...

Oh go on then Boris, recommend me some really bootyshakin' mahler beats.

	17-01-2004 21:17									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed Since when is learning to kill people in creative ways a college education?

a. what are you talking about.

b. USNA is the "uncollege".

c. Read Webb's A SENSE OF HONOR

	17-01-2004 22:39									#28
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Who do you have playing 1 and 6 Boris?

edit: Mahler is probably my favourite composer. I've lost count of how many Mahler CDs I have.

I think I have everything but Das Klagende Lied and some of them I have 4 or more versions of.

If anyone wants to recommend good performances, please do.

Last edited by Agathon on 17-01-2004 at 22:45

	17-01-2004 22:50									#29
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One of my favourite Mahler records is the 2nd symphony conducted by Gilbert Kaplan.

It's not the best of the best, but it puts to shame many other recordings, which is surprising as Kaplan is not a professional conductor.

In fact, he's a rich Mahler fan who could afford to hire an orchestra and a conductor to teach him how to conduct the 2nd Symphony. As I said, it shames the recordings of most professional conductors and reminds me that there's hope for us all.

	18-01-2004 03:01									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Meh. Considering your professed preferences for clothing styles, grooming products and music, I'm comfortable enough with your extremely bad taste to not put much stock in it.

Remind me of what those allegedly are meant to be, oh gay man who can't iron.... or get cafetiere coffee right.

I mean, if you can't iron, honeychile, I'm thinking Brown Bottle the Bag Lady's fashion sense might seem positively Nouvelle Vague in comparison with yours- or are you saying you wear Yohji Yamamoto and Hussein Chalayan unstructured clothing?