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Flip McWho
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May 2002
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Fundamentalism was only used at the end anyway. Well for me. I researched everything and then just changed to Fundamentalism to mop everybody up. I'm with vxma1 I have no clue why. But it probably was too powerful.
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Antrine
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What mattereth it now? When you can tailor make your own kind of government in the editor.
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mr Rura
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Slubice
Aug 2003
time: 05:33
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the argument "it was too strong" is imo little pointless - if firaxis wanted to add it, they would change it to make it worse. i think theres many similar governments [communism, fascizm] and it's not needed...
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dworkin
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It was just silly.
No unrest? Take a look at a modern theocracy. No unrest? Hahahahahaha!
Tithes? Again, those theocracies. They surely are wealthy and their citizens prosperous. Hahahahahahaha!
Big heap of units.
Well here they're on to something. But since IRL these huge armies are poorly trained, ill equipped, seldom paid and fed troops I don't see this as supported units in the Civ sense. Again Hahahahahahaha!
Face it, the rules were silly. I laughed at it when I first played Civ2, Ilaugh at it now. The CTP theocracy government was much more sensible and may of had a lot to do with Fundementalist being dropped.
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dworkin
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And the same can be said for the corruption effects for a democracy. I'm glad that's gone as well.
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David Murray
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Because it was Orientalist.
I have learned the error of my ways and I see now that it was merely reflective of an American bias against all things 'Islam'. So how come the West is the sum of all its parts but the Muslim world is all about Islam? Why does Islam equate to terror and fundamentalism when crazies like McVeigh and born again Christian lunatic Presidents don't characterize Christianity? Why are illiberal figures like the Pope idolized by the Western media? Why is non-proliferation good for Iran and Iraq but not Israel?
Fundamentalism wasn't just overpowered, it was stereotypical and grossly offensive. See Said, 'Covering Islam' or 'Orientalism' for a much more detailed study of this (largely American) phenomena.
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Capt Dizle
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Fundy ain't in because of people like David Murray. Spoilsport.
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Capt Dizle
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quote:
Originally posted by Mad Bomber
It was way to controversial after Sept 11 and it got the axe shortly thereafter. |
Sid was quoted as saying that they just couldn't make it work (balance) so they scrapped it. I think your version is closer to the truth.
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CiverDan
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Mad Bomber, Fundamentalism was removed before 9/11 due to game balance issues. It was more or less "replaced" with Fascism in C3C, in the since they are both more or less all our war governments. The "Plant Nuke", "Poison Water Supply" "Destroy Building" spy options, were, on the other hand, removed for sensitivity reasons as the game was released late in 2001.
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pauli
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herndon, va, usa
Jan 2000
time: 00:33
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quote:
Originally posted by CiverDan
Mad Bomber, Fundamentalism was removed before 9/11 due to game balance issues. It was more or less "replaced" with Fascism in C3C, in the since they are both more or less all our war governments. The "Plant Nuke", "Poison Water Supply" "Destroy Building" spy options, were, on the other hand, removed for sensitivity reasons as the game was released late in 2001. |
...and it's about time for them to put them back in.
i'd been really hoping they'd do so for c3c. oh well :/
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