20-01-2004 17:05									#1
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Recommendations?

Both cost the same amount.
Also, does playing online with either of these cost money? If so, then I won't be able to do that (already in debt).

	20-01-2004 17:24									#2
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The main differences:

NWN has (from what I hear) a horrible singleplayer mode. Not immersive or intelligent at all. But it has a great online mode.
Morrowind (from my experience) has no online mode at all even incorperated. But it's single player experience is great.

They both have "easy" moddability, but since I prefer solo games I, of course, vote Morrowind.

	20-01-2004 17:38									#3
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The difference is: The CRPGs make you bored. The Alcohol makes you drunk. The Bananas make you full and happy.

	20-01-2004 17:42									#4
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I voted for alcohol since I know that Skanky used the word 'buy' in its loosest sense.

	20-01-2004 17:57									#5
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No contest. Alcohol wins every time

	20-01-2004 18:14									#6
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NWN has two expansions, actually. I don't know if the latest includes the first, or what.

	20-01-2004 19:09									#7
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buy a wargame, they need the support.

	20-01-2004 19:16									#8
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Buy moonshine from tramps - they need the support.

	20-01-2004 19:18									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Send me the money. I need support.

	20-01-2004 19:54									#10
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Buy a bra. You need support.

	20-01-2004 19:57									#11
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Alcohol of course.

	20-01-2004 21:53									#12
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Buy NWN so you can play "The Dungeons of Apolyton"

	20-01-2004 22:04									#13
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whatever you buy, buy it through apolyton! (see support apolyton hyperlink under the "reply wth quote" button)

	20-01-2004 22:24									#14
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Knowing you, Skanky, alcohol is the way to go!

	20-01-2004 22:26									#15
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with $70 you should be able to buy both NWN and Morrowind.

	20-01-2004 22:58									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us with $70 you should be able to buy both NWN and Morrowind.

...and both come with their 1st expansions these days.

	20-01-2004 23:00									#17
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oops, Aussie dollars, my bad

	20-01-2004 23:18									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Buy either NWN or the booze. Steer clear of Morrowind. (its very dull.)

-Jam

	20-01-2004 23:25									#19
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quote: Steer clear of Morrowind. (its very dull.)

you s'wit!!

	21-01-2004 01:23									#20
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Buy "Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing"

	21-01-2004 01:57									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Steer clear of Morrowind. (its very dull.) -Jam

This comes from a person who believes Windows XP is unstable and Windows 98 is the pinnacle of stability.

	21-01-2004 02:20									#22
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I just got NWN gold for £30. That includes the first expansion. My CRPG mad friend said the expansion (1st or 2nd, i dont remember) was the best crpg story he had ever played.

Seems pretty good so far, although it does have the most pain in the arse, inescapeable tutorial ever Being happy when they all got butchered was not the emotion the programmers were expecting, I guess.

	21-01-2004 03:54									#23
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You CAN skip the tutorial the second time round. At least they were considerate enough to put it as a seperate chapter.

Regarding Morrowind :

• The game world is very big
  
• The game world looks very nice (apart from the monster and character models which are UGLY)
  
• This means that a.) it takes forever to walk anywhere, and b.) it makes your machine run very slow.
  
• The rules system sucks.
  
• The NPCs are about as interesting as a dead dog.
  
• The game is so freeform that you have no idea where or what you are supposed to do. You just drift.
  

	21-01-2004 04:19									#24
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quote: You just drift.

thats what they were going for

	21-01-2004 04:32									#25
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I can do that at home, in my room, with a MUCH better frame rate.

-Jam

	21-01-2004 04:34									#26
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Jamski just has a crazy vendetta against Morrwind. Ignore his psycho rambling.

Well, the combat is sort of dull. I'll give him that. But you need the game, if only to know its beauty- in both story, size, and graphics (and the feeling of hopelessness even an advanced player feels with a new character).

NWN has (had? hehe) excellent graphics. The multiplayer game is free. If you want something like the MMORPG experience WITHOUT MONTHLY FEES, check out many of the 'Persistant Worlds' developed by fans.

	21-01-2004 04:36									#27
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Jamski

but then I think all RPGs video games are that way

	21-01-2004 04:40									#28
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quote: If you want something like the MMORPG experience WITHOUT MONTHLY FEES, check out many of the 'Persistant Worlds' developed by fans.

Like the man says I have GREAT fun teaming up with people who all speak different languages and trying to decide who gets the magic Longsword *giggles* You can't get more fun for free.

-Jam

	21-01-2004 04:58									#29
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You sound sarcastic...

Alright then, lets go for the negatives:
Morrowind:
- Randomly crashes, despite patches.
- Combat is repetitive and not modeled correctly, i.e. lower characters run from rats, medium characters can easily defeat the game.
- Dialouge with NPCs boring and closed- i.e. "yes" "no" responses are all you get.
- Gets a max of .0035 FPS, even on that Japanese World Simulator

NWN:
- Lamers online
- Bad central campign (I didn't mind it that much, but I'm me.)
- Graphics hog.
- Overhead combat is a 'style'.

Alcohol:
- Gone the next day. You know why, but not how

Last edited by MattH on 21-01-2004 at 05:04

	21-01-2004 05:00									#30
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quote: - Gets a max of .0035 FPS, even on that Japanes World Simulator

Actually, on my machine, I get around 40-70 (I put a cap on)