21-01-2004 04:16									#1
	Russians Wage Desperate Battle To Avert Tragedy Got spare money?

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quote: MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has sent in the army to bolster a week-long struggle to rescue 10 tons of beer trapped under Siberian ice, Itar-Tass news agency said Tuesday. A lorry carrying the beer sank when trying to cross the frozen Irtysh river, and a rescue team of six divers, 10 workers and a modified T-72 tank from the emergencies ministry have so far failed to save the load. "The situation hasn't developed according to our ideal scenario," the deputy head of the Cherlaksky region, told the agency. Temperatures were around minus 27 degrees Celsius (minus 17 degrees Fahrenheit) in the region, near the Siberian city of Omsk and around 1,400 miles from Moscow. A week-long effort to cut a 100 yard corridor to the river bank to pull the truck to dry land failed when the vehicle was swept away from the rescue site, Tass said. But it said the soldiers were confident it would take them just a day to retrieve the beer.

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	21-01-2004 04:18									#2
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quote: when the vehicle was swept away from the rescue site, Tass said.

Yeah, right... I bet Tass pushed it in just fer sheits and giggles

That sure is some cold beer though. It has probably all exploded by now anyway.

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OH MY GOD! WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP! STOP EVERYTHING!

	21-01-2004 04:26									#4
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If its russian beer, then just let it go, its not worth the trouble.

	21-01-2004 04:38									#5
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel If its russian beer, then just let it go, its not worth the trouble.

I have had many excellent Russian beers.

If it were Bud, I'd say blow up the truck as well....

	21-01-2004 04:46									#6
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quote: Originally posted by GePap I have had many excellent Russian beers. If it were Bud, I'd say blow up the truck as well....

I would shed not a tear for lost bud or bud lite.

	21-01-2004 04:53									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Yeah, right... I bet Tass pushed it in just fer sheits and giggles

Beer is ungodly.

	21-01-2004 04:54									#8
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What a nightmare.

Still, good to see that at least some Russian soldiers finally found something meaningful to do.

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I wonder what will be on the cover of the russian equivalent of 'Time':

Person of the Year: The Russian Soldier--> The True Story of One Rifle Section's Heroic Attempts to Find Some Booze: Told by an Embedded Reporter.

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Are there any good Russian beers.

	21-01-2004 05:46									#11
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So in years to come archeologists searching for mammoths will get an early Christmas.

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quote: Originally posted by Japher That sure is some cold beer though.

Thats what I was thinking. Is this Russia's new freeze-brewing system?

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If it's been stuck that long, I'd wager it's frozen, which means it's ruined.

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	21-01-2004 09:03									#14
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"So in years to come archeologists searching for mammoths will get an early Christmas."



Wouldn't the alchohol keep it from freezing? If it did freeze, the alcohol wouldn't, right? So you could still get drunk on it?

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Beer doesn't have enough alcohol in it to prevent it from freezing when exposed to enough cold. Trust me, have had it happen many times.

It would still have alcohol, but it would taste revolting.

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"It would still have alcohol, but it would taste revolting."

The Russians know this I'm sure, Siberia being so cold, yet they still try to rescue the truck. Maybe they'll distill off the alcohol? Maybe they'll just drink the foul brew. They're tough...

	21-01-2004 09:14									#17
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It's stuck under water, it can't very well be frozen.

The truck was crossing the river, the ice broke, the trunk sank to the bottom... So it'll take a major fall in local temperatures for it to freeze. And if that happened, the soldiers would be a little off trying to pull it ashore.

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Well, if it were salt water, it could very well be below freezing. At -17 Farenheit, that's certainly a possibility.

	21-01-2004 09:19									#19
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Rivers in the middle of Siberia rarely contain salt water as far as I've been told.

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Siberia ***hole deep in salt water rivers?

	21-01-2004 09:22									#21
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I wouldn't know about the salinity of Siberian rivers, honestly.

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Aren't rivers by definition fresh water?

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You'll only find saline solutions high enough to matter in this case where a river meets the ocean or in extended delta areas. Neither of which are anywhere near Omsk.

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"Aren't rivers by definition fresh water?"

You may have a point here.

Excepting of course the tidal estuaries.

	21-01-2004 11:31									#25
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I live in Omsk. Our main river Irtysh isn't salty as any normal river. If truck is underwater the beer wouldn't freeze by definition, because water can't be colder than 0 C, otherwise this "water" called "ice". But who cares about the beer? They try to recover the truck, it cost much more than beer. I don't see why it's a big deal and what's so funny. Like American or anyone else trucks never felt underwater and were never recovered.

Our beer is quite OK. In our city we have the largest brewery in whole Siberia.
Apolyton was the first place where I heard about this story.

	21-01-2004 12:05									#26
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I think cars that end up underwater -- especially for extended periods -- are considered "totaled" here.

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I like StPetersburg brewed Baltikas - all sorts of them.

	21-01-2004 12:14									#28
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I can see it now - several hundred Russian drunks freeze over the winter trying to dig out the booze.

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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk I think cars that end up underwater -- especially for extended periods -- are considered "totaled" here.

And you just let them laid underwater and never recover them, right?

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quote: Originally posted by Saras I like StPetersburg brewed Baltikas - all sorts of them.

N7 is the best of them.