22-01-2004 17:41									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Havak What does ‘flowing’ mean? It seems to translate a lot of the time as ‘referee ignores breaches of the laws until someone scores’?

Havak, you have the unflinching support of France... these SH heretics would not recognize a game of Rugby even if it were right in front of them.



P.S. : they have changed the "tongue" smily...

	22-01-2004 18:07									#32
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quote: Havak is doing his best to show us that the English can get as drunk as the Irish... but as he is only posting at work we are only benefiting from his hangover time.

We are actually very similar races in a number of ways. Few nations match the passion of the folks on the British Isles for alcohol.

quote: Havak, you have the unflinching support of France... these SH heretics would not recognize a game of Rugby even if it were right in front of them.

They might recognise it – they just wouldn’t like like it much. All that messy competing for the ball.

I now have my flight and hotel booked for Paris – result! Now I need to secure match tickets…

	22-01-2004 18:21									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Havak I now have my flight and hotel booked for Paris – result! Now I need to secure match tickets…

We the French are cartesians, we prefer to secure the game tickets before preparing the journey.

	22-01-2004 18:40									#34
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Far too sensible for 'Nous de la nationalité anglaise'.

As for that conference in Kiwi land here are the results:

the key recommendations, which will be taken forward for further discussion and consideration at the IRB's AGM in April are:
* The development of an education programme on the technical management and protocols for the scrummage.
* The development of an education programme in relation to referee management protocols at the tackle and ruck.
* Research into the maul to include injury surveillance, management, defence, binding and obstruction.
* That there be a consultative process with coaches and players with regard to the ranking of international games, and that the referee selection panel be extended to include a national coach and an international player.
* The laws are adequate in relation to decoy-running. But for clarification, the decoy-runner must be in an onside position. If he runs in front of the ball-carrier before the pass is made, he is off-side and liable to penalty (Law 11). After the ball-carrier has passed the ball, the decoy-runner must not obstruct opposition players (Law 10.1 Obstruction and Law 11 Off-side).


So where is the mention of reviewing points for scores? And that last bullet point will totally mess up the current Aussie/NZ style of back play - it mentions a need to be onside as the ball is passed. Sacrilege!!!

	22-01-2004 18:58									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Far too sensible for 'Nous de la nationalité anglaise'.

I am sure you can...

quote: ... it mentions a need to be onside as the ball is passed. Sacrilege!!!

This is a great day for Rugby...

	22-01-2004 19:11									#36
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All it lacked from being a perfect conference was Clive apologising to Eddie for being a bad winner really.

I do have some contacts chasing tickets for me - but even if i have to watch it in a bar full of screaming Frenchmen what the hell - it beats being in Leicester!

	22-01-2004 23:00									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Havak All it lacked from being a perfect conference was Clive apologising to Eddie for being a bad winner really.

One thing at a time... be patient little beetle.

quote: I do have some contacts chasing tickets for me - but even if i have to watch it in a bar full of screaming Frenchmen what the hell - it beats being in Leicester!

I suppose that "Les Obus" is still the place to go...

	23-01-2004 02:54									#38
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Well, Dermott does sit and growl mightily at the computer screen every time I access one of our threads. I assumed he was just expressing an opinion on yet another Tamerlin post. Maybe it's been your, um, puss, after all. Certainly, the cat next door drives Dermott loopy. Well, loopier. The cat has no fear of anything that walks the earth. He sits on the other side of the see-through fence and taunts Dermott to the point of apoplexy. Forty two kilograms of enraged grey and white hair bouncing up and down on the one spot is a sight to see, I can assure you.

That would make a great avatar.

	23-01-2004 02:55									#39
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I still can't decide on a thread name...maybe we should just count up in roman numerals or something...?

	23-01-2004 03:19									#40
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Okay, if you really want to befuddle and bemuse those who trawl the OT forum looking for interesting thread titles, try this one:

Rugby - The Claytons Thread Title

You should, of course, from your days in the real world, before you moved to where you are, recall the drink called Claytons. Marketed as "the drink you're having when you're not having a drink", which led to the birth of the expression "a Claytons [insert word or words of choice]", meaning something that only appeared to be what it was meant to be.

Thus we would have a thread title that only appeared to be a thread title.

	23-01-2004 03:24									#41
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Rugby - The Claytons Thread Title Thus we would have a thread title that only appeared to be a thread title.

Rather conceptual but I like it...




Finbar, no reaction about the movie I mentionned yesterday: "Lost in Translation" from Sofia Coppola?




flipside, I am sorry but I don't know the movie or serie you are talking about, may be the name of the French version, if there is one at all, is very different...

	23-01-2004 03:25									#42
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So who was the crooked WRC ref?

	23-01-2004 03:27									#43
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Other title idea:

Rugby - Six Nations Tournament: five against one

	23-01-2004 03:33									#44
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quote: Originally posted by finbar So who was the crooked WRC ref?

The problem is that the list of potential candidates is very long... be it because of their incompetence.

	23-01-2004 03:33									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Rather conceptual but I like it...

Why not some existentialism as a refreshing change from Havak's endless mindless waffle?

quote: Finbar, no reaction about the movie I mentionned yesterday: "Lost in Translation" from Sofia Coppola?

Sorry, I didn't notice the reference to it amongst all the other drivel you were posting.

Haven't seen it. Mrs finbar saw it the other week and liked it a lot.

One film I did happen to catch on cable a couple of weeks ago was "State and Main". Written and directed by David Mammet - wonderful writer of such things as "Glengarry Glen Ross" - "State and Main" is a very funny story about a Hollywood film outfit arriving in a small New England town to shoot their film. Apart from being very funny, it's also astonishingly accurate in its portrait of filmmakers, writers and actors. I think it was released about 3 years ago. Well worth a look.

	23-01-2004 03:40									#46
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Haven't seen it. Mrs finbar saw it the other week and liked it a lot.

A woman of taste... how did she end up marrying you?

quote: I think it was released about 3 years ago. Well worth a look.

I have never heard about it, I will watch for it in the Utopia program, if it is a good movie this movie theater will broadcast it one day or the other...

	23-01-2004 03:41									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Other title idea: Rugby - Six Nations Tournament: five against one

Mmmmm. With the best half of the England team now retired and the other half struggling with his shoulder injury, I assume that means five against Les Grenouilles?

	23-01-2004 03:43									#48
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No it's five against les Rosbifs...

	23-01-2004 03:47									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin A woman of taste... how did she end up marrying you?

There's always been a massive shortage of single, straight males in Sydney.

quote: I have never heard about it, I will watch for it in the Utopia program, if it is a good movie this movie theater will broadcast it one day or the other...

It should also be on video and DVD. You should also try to see Mammet's "Glengarry Glen Ross". It started life as a stage play before it was filmed. Stunning film with Al Pacino, Jack Lemmon and others. It was released in the early 90s. It will be on video and/or DVD.

	23-01-2004 03:50									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin No it's five against les Rosbifs...

Not anymore, mon ami. Your 6 Nations ship might finally have come in.

	23-01-2004 04:05									#51
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Not anymore, mon ami. Your 6 Nations ship might finally have come in.

A Grand Slam or nothing...

	23-01-2004 06:48									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin A Grand Slam or nothing...

Why not? A Grand Slam, that is.

At home, with the English team in transitional "post WC" period, you certainly have the players.
IF you beat them, all you would need to do would be decent against us, and not commit suicide against anybody else.
My main problem with a French Grand Slam, as opposed to 6N, victory, would be the lack of quality decision making at 9 and 10, especially in a close tactical affair.
I think that we would push you and England beat you, in that type of game.

	23-01-2004 07:39									#53
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quote: Originally posted by flipside My main problem with a French Grand Slam, as opposed to 6N, victory, would be the lack of quality decision making at 9 and 10, especially in a close tactical affair.

The main problem of the French team is the lack of good kickers, Frédéric Michalack must improve its kicks, he has the talent to become one of the best Half-Fly...

On the other hand the worst problem of the French team is Yachvili, he has always been terrible at the international level...

	23-01-2004 08:18									#54
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quote: Originally posted by finbar So who was the crooked WRC ref?

Gee, much as I hate to say it the only one I can think of off the top of my head is the final - pushing it into extra time with a late flurry of 'questionable' decisions seemed a little too 'convenient'.

I'd be surprised if this were actually the case though.
Surely it would have come under much more scrutiny much sooner given its relative importance ... ... The absence of the All-Blacks notwithstanding.

	23-01-2004 08:52									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin The main problem of the French team is the lack of good kickers, Frédéric Michalack must improve its kicks, he has the talent to become one of the best Half-Fly... On the other hand the worst problem of the French team is Yachvili, he has always been terrible at the international level...

Agreed.
At some stage, at international level, you need to be able to dictate field position and create a forward dominance to win the big games

In my opinion, you have the forwards to do this, because to be honest, most of the packs in world rugby are pretty average at the moment. England are good, and, after that you are the best of a mediocre bunch.
The question I would ask is this .
Is Michalak capable of dominating a game, under pressure.
TRUST ME, we know he can do it with the ball in his hand.
A big thumping at the WC proved that.
The question is though, can he control a game with his boot, and, critically, know when to switch and do so effectively?

	23-01-2004 11:55									#56
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This chatter is all way over my head. I'll go back to trying to build Dermott's Tomato website. I'm trying to teach myself how to build a website.

See if you can view the pictures. Mrs finbar couldn't on her PC at work. I can see them on the Mac. I think I have to save the images somehow differently before posting them

Edit. The link doesn't seem to work!

And still doesn't! Bugger this IT stuff. No wonder Havak drinks so much!

Try this direct address:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/finbar/welcome.html

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	23-01-2004 12:20									#57
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I think you may have a / too many on the end.

This works fine for me.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/finbar/welcome.html

[Edit: D'oh. Took me 5 minutes to get through and you'd editted by then.]

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	23-01-2004 12:37									#58
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But can you see the pictures?

	23-01-2004 12:39									#59
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The upper one will give me nightmares through next week.

	23-01-2004 12:50									#60
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But that aside, are you Mac or PC? If the latter, Mrs finbar's machine at work is rooted.

Edit. In the meantime, I'll see if I can change the top photo to something more hideous.

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