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I can't believe you have not liked this masterpiece inspired by a Tennessee Williams play.


I didn't say I didn't like it! It's just not in my top 10! Or even, probably, top 15!

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I can't believe you have not liked this masterpiece inspired by a Tennessee Williams play.

This thread becomes more and more surreal.
I had to do " Cat on a hot tin roof", "Catch-22", "King Lear" and the poetry of "W.B Yeats" as my A- Level exam texts.
Ummmmm......................
The film is a decent reproduction of the play and was well cast.
The play was, well, a thing that I refuse to ever read again.

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I didn't say I didn't like it! It's just not in my top 10! Or even, probably, top 15!


Read it for two years and you would hate it.
I, personally, hate it.
Funnily I love "Catch-22" as a book and "King Lear" yet I hate the adaptations even more because of that.

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Yes, but "Catch 22" is one of those virtually unadaptable works better left where it works best. Brave attempt, though.

My nomination for worst ever adaptation? "Bonfire of the Vanities". Great but flawed book murdered by an ignorant studio head and a director who didn't really want to do it anyway.

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Yes, but "Catch 22" is one of those virtually unadaptable works better left where it works best. Brave attempt, though.

Oh, I totally agree.
Good film, if you have never read the novel.
It's just that if you have read the novel you hate the movie. For the reason you said.
"Cat" I hate as a play, whereas, as a film I think it is okay.
For the reason that, as a play, I thought it flawed, yet it was easy to adapt to film.

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This thread becomes more and more surreal.


No, it's only the cruising speed of the thread.

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No, it's only the cruising speed of the thread.



In terms of content. Yep. Even I kinda see the odd trail as a point flies past.
It has had some bizarre parallels to my life outside of this thread recently though.
From my own celibacy, to my A-Levels, to cooking, to reading about Campo's sponsership of Mark Webber about 10 minutes before reading about Queenbeyan, etc.
I guess that this happens to everone at some stage.
All it needs now is for someone to talk about Matt Dawson and his flogging with a spikey cactus, and it would be too much.

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In terms of content. Yep. Even I kinda see the odd trail as a point flies past.
It has had some bizarre parallels to my life outside of this thread recently though.
From my own celibacy, to my A-Levels, to cooking, to reading about Campo's sponsorship of Mark Webber about 10 minutes before reading about Queenbeyan, etc.
I guess that this happens to everyone at some stage.
All it needs now is for someone to talk about Matt Dawson and his flogging with a spikey cactus, and it would be too much.

Edit. Quoted while trying to correct spelling.Stoopit focker that I am.

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This thread has several strange effects among which addiction.

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This thread has several strange effects among which addiction.

True.

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Just what the world needs - a focker who can't spell and a focking dope head exchanging posts.

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I'm just waiting for somebody to come up with something like ...

"Its all ravagon's fault. This sort of thing never happened when Caligastia opened the threads".


In other news those utter Northern Hemispherean b******s are at it again!

http://rugbyheaven.smh.com.au/artic...5854002055.html

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The coaches of the Six Nations teams may be just over a week away from combat but on Wednesday they were united in declaring their northern hemisphere championship the only tournament worth winning apart from the World Cup.


:moral outrage:

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I really love Science Fiction though I really hate the Star Wars trend..


Well the last two movies in that series bored me to tears. But then I was twenty years older than his target audience I guess.

I am more into the Fantasy end of the spectrum than Sci Fi – my preference for reading matter though would be Raymond E Feist, Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind, Janny Wurts…though of course I have read some of the Sci-Fi classics such as the Foundation trilogy and the BBC Dr Who range.

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To spare me some money and some time I have seen the three movies, including the extended versions of the two first episodes, the same day. I had only seen the "short" version of the first episode before this day.


Good grief you must have some stamina! But Cat on a hot tin roof Tamerlin?

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If you have not yet seen "Lost in Translation", pick the nearest movie theater and run for it.


I rarely go to cinemas – full of the great unwashed don’t you know…

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Except when contracts are in place. And paying out a contract is only an option when all parties agree to same.


Hardly worth the paper they are written on in sport surely Finbar? Witness his summary dismissal from the top job. If he hasn’t negotiated a parachute clause innthe golden handcuffs they gave him I’d be very surprised. Plus it needs to be recognised that helming Tigers is a bigger job in world rugby than running the NPC Waikato side and being the NZRFU ‘emergency spare’.

If you look at soccer here as an example of sporting contracts we have players who miss drugs tests and get banned for eight months who still draw their salary every week thanks to their contracts…I would estimate the player in question could earn over 2 million pounds whilst banned from playing – nice work if you can get it!

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I suspect Plank wasn't the only one at odds with Nucifora.


I have followed some of the verbal exchanges twixt Plank and Nucifora. All I can say is it seems Nucifora is a worthy successor to Eddie in the mouth department if not in coaching ability.

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That is not bound, and that's what Eales pointed out.


That decision is down to the referee not to ex-Wallabies (however illustrious) – and it’s perfectly permissable in most European rugby. It’s not our fault the SH doesn’t understand forward play now is it?

Only Paddy O’Brien gave us problems with it and that seemed to be because forward play mystifies the old boy.

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Mmmm. As in your players taking a casual stroll around to the wrong side of the ruck to impede the defence.


And your players laying over the ball on the wrong side of a ruck so that some greenhorn SH ref will penalise the rucking him out - rather than the actual offence of him killing ball?

We could trade these all day – but remember I consider the Wallabies the most accomplished ‘Professional’ side in the world.

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Of course it's revisionist bull. They're now inventing on the run. And for Blair to admit - or claim - that he didn't know what the 45 minutes referred to?


Yes it’s rather rich isn’t it? I’m waiting for him to start wearing the wings and halo in public myself.

I wasn’t hungry when I saw the tomato yesterday – but I sure could eat it now!

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Hey that stung!!!

All I was struggling for was that the Parisians came charged up for a fight – isn’t it just a tiny bit sissy of them to then moan because they got one?

At least they are totally screwed in the next round – they will never win in Munster.

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I suppose I could if I lobotomised myself first.


The man in the dock is Edward Neumeier who also co-wrote an old favourite of mine – “Robocop”.
Be warned ST2 is on the way and he has apparently written the screenplay again…

Oh and may I say in closing "Its all ravagon's fault. This sort of thing never happened when Caligastia opened the threads".

And the six nations is the only tournament in the world worth winning after the world cup.

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Good grief you must have some stamina! But Cat on a hot tin roof Tamerlin?


Yes, Sir!

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If you look at soccer...



NO!

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That decision is down to the referee not to ex-Wallabies (however illustrious) – and it’s perfectly permissable in most European rugby. It’s not our fault the SH doesn’t understand forward play now is it?


You could have written Rugby instead of forward play...

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The man in the dock is Edward Neumeier who also co-wrote an old favourite of mine – “Robocop”.
Be warned ST2 is on the way and he has apparently written the screenplay again…


You mean they are preparing a second Starship Troopers...

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And the six nations is the only tournament in the world worth winning after the world cup.


True...

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I am more into the Fantasy


As you've demonstrated post after post after post for the last couple of years.

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Good grief you must have some stamina! But Cat on a hot tin roof Tamerlin?


He has a pinup of Garfield on his bedroom wall.

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and it’s perfectly permissable in most European rugby.


Yes, that's the problem with permitting illegal play in the domestic competition. Come a Test match and a ref who knows the rules and you get penalised.

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The man in the dock is Edward Neumeier who also co-wrote an old favourite of mine – “Robocop”.


You and Tamerlin, what a combo of appalling taste.

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Be warned ST2 is on the way and he has apparently written the screenplay again…


Rest assured, there's absolutely no way its release will trouble me.

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And the six nations is the only tournament in the world worth winning after the world cup.


You mean the NH Tri-Nations? England -v- France -v- Ireland? With the other three teams there to - well, what are they there for?

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You could have written Rugby instead of forward play...


I went to the theatre tonight to see a play written by a good friend. It had rave reviews. It cost $61 a ticket. The play was crap. To think that I could've saved $61 and sat here and read this crap instead.

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Yes indeed Tamerlin – ST2: Heroes of the Federation should hit cinemas this year sometime…

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As you've demonstrated post after post after post for the last couple of years.


Why what do you mean sir? :feigned innocence:

I trust you rate the writing of Garfield then?

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Yes, that's the problem with permitting illegal play in the domestic competition. Come a Test match and a ref who knows the rules and you get penalised.


Quite amusing this - given S12 and it’s consistent ignoring of the law book. And clearly that’s where SH refs are going wrong – they are reading some silly rule book when they should be studying the laws of the game?

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You and Tamerlin, what a combo of appalling taste.


I simply have broad tastes. One man’s meat and all that…?

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You mean the NH Tri-Nations? England -v- France -v- Ireland? With the other three teams there to - well, what are they there for?


To give me ‘tour’ destinations – and to provide relaxing games to watch with a barrel of bitter to hand.

To be honest the England side that turns out in Italy next weekend (nearly went – but plumped for France this year instead) will have little relation to the RWC winning side. It may be a younger and more exciting line up in actual fact. : copyright flying pork predictions:

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I went to the theatre tonight to see a play written by a good friend. It had rave reviews. It cost $61 a ticket. The play was crap. To think that I could've saved $61 and sat here and read this crap instead.


I thought his line deliciously provocative myself.

So this friend doesn’t haunt Apolyton then? Or did you mean the acting was crap?

First post Deano era game tonight - away at Sale. Not an easy game at the best of times - so a good test for where the boys heads have moved to this week.

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Yes indeed Tamerlin – ST2: Heroes of the Federation should hit cinemas this year sometime…


Followed shortly afterwards, hopefully, by a tsunami.

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I trust you rate the writing of Garfield then?


Actually, I thought it was good stuff in the early days. Then, once it became popular and syndicated all over the place, it became production line. He hasn't drawn the strips for a long time, that's left to contract artists.

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Quite amusing this - given S12 and it’s consistent ignoring of the law book. And clearly that’s where SH refs are going wrong – they are reading some silly rule book when they should be studying the laws of the game?


I've asked you to keep SF out of this thread!

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To give me ‘tour’ destinations – and to provide relaxing games to watch with a barrel of bitter to hand.


Mmmm. NH Tri Nations, SH Tri Nations. There's little difference.

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To be honest the England side that turns out in Italy next weekend (nearly went – but plumped for France this year instead) will have little relation to the RWC winning side. It may be a younger and more exciting line up in actual fact. : copyright flying pork predictions:


I look forward to seeing England taking on better oppo than Italy with half your team retired and the other half out with his shoulder injury.

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I thought his line deliciously provocative myself.


So where's his retaliatory jibe? I expect he's off in Parma again replenishing his stock of pilfered smallgoods.

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So this friend doesn’t haunt Apolyton then? Or did you mean the acting was crap?


No, she doesn't understand sport. She's one of the country's most awarded playwrights. Unfortunately, this one has some real plotting, structural and conceptual problems. Some terrific performances that don't save it, unfortunately. I re-read some of the rave reviews last night. They glossed over the play's problems.

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First post Deano era game tonight - away at Sale. Not an easy game at the best of times - so a good test for where the boys heads have moved to this week.


Rest assured, if they lose, I shall draw attention to it in my usual fashion.

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To be honest the England side that turns out in Italy next weekend (nearly went – but plumped for France this year instead) will have little relation to the RWC winning side. It may be a younger and more exciting line up in actual fact. : copyright flying pork predictions:


To be even more honest finbar's homepage hosts a younger and even more exciting lineup.
Probably play better rugby too.


What's really depressing is all the SF talk without mentioning anything that's actually good.
I rather pride myself on being a bit of an aficionado and the only thing that seems to come up repeatedly is Starship Troopers (great novel, even if a little political for its time) which was eminently passable as a movie.
Robocop doesn't even bear mentioning. :barf:

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Mmmm. NH Tri Nations, SH Tri Nations. There's little difference.


You are wrong, there is a BIG difference... in one of the tournament they are playing Rugby.

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No, I was playing a Samurai in a role playing game session somewhere in medieval Japan.



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...Robocop doesn't even bear mentioning. :barf:


Robocop is the kind of SF movie I don't like at all.

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You are wrong, there is a BIG difference... in one of the tournament they are playing Rugby.


Quite right. And it's about time you NH nongs followed suit.


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:looney tune: !

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... SF ... actually good.


Oxymoron.

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:looney tune: !


But, but, it's true!

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Just what the world needs - a focker who can't spell and a focking dope head exchanging posts.


I would reply but Finbar gets angry. Oh, and I'm actually a pisshead.

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To be honest the England side that turns out in Italy next weekend (nearly went – but plumped for France this year instead) will have little relation to the RWC winning side. It may be a younger and more exciting line up in actual fact.


So you are playing your U-14's.
Big Deal.
So you will win a close one.

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What's really depressing is all the SF talk without mentioning anything that's actually good.
I rather pride myself on being a bit of an aficionado and the only thing that seems to come up repeatedly is Starship Troopers (great novel, even if a little political for its time) which was eminently passable as a movie.
Robocop doesn't even bear mentioning. :barf:

Ummm.............

Iain. M. Banks "Culture series"
Space Opera Liberrato.

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Mmmm. NH Tri Nations, SH Tri Nations. There's little difference.

NH Tri-Nations?
I don't think so.
Our game breakers are injured in Murphy, Hickie, O'Driscoll.
We couldn't even beat you when we were dominant.
We don't have the strength in depth to beat the big boys when our best are out.
The problem is not so much in the forwards, I seriously think we will cope with the loss of Wood , as our replacements are test quality at set piece.l
It is our ability to break a line that worries me.
The big game for us will be Wales. It will tell whether our backup can cope with their flair with the ball.
If we beat England or France it will either be 1) Fluke or 2) Tactical (Raining in France, Ref. ignores the offside law while we pressure the half-backs)

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No, I was playing a Samurai in a role playing game session somewhere in medieval Japan.


Ninja's and superspies?


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Iain. M. Banks "Culture series"
Space Opera Liberrato.


Must've missed those. Surprise surprise.
to the former but I've never even heard of the latter. Is it any good?

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Finbar, you should try reading Stanislaw Lem's "His Master's Voice".
Banks is good, but someone who doesn't like SF will hate it on grounds it looks like SF. Lem's SF is sometimes despised by SF fans because it doesn't look like space operas.

As for the 6 nations (sorry to be on topic), don't underestimate Wales this year. They showed good things in the World Cup and could beat any one of the big teams on a given match. But maybe I'm just dreaming.

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Ninja's and superspies?


Samurai Yoriki and their magistrate investigating the disappearance of another magistrate.

 
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