02-02-2004 05:33									#181
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Me too. Particularly watching NH rugby. I watch the first half and it's crap.

You actually mean you are not Rugby educated enough to appreciate the hard work of a pack exhausting the opponent's forwards in order to allow the backs to have a good fun in the second half.

	02-02-2004 05:37									#182
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I take it you are a basketball fan then.

I mean, sorry, that you are a fan of SH rugby then?

	02-02-2004 05:39									#183
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Oh God, X-Posted.Sorry.

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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin You actually mean you are not Rugby educated enough to appreciate the hard work of a pack exhausting the opponent's forwards in order to allow the backs to have a good fun in the second half.

By which you mean wasting half the game until the opposition gets bored and goes to sleep?

If you did that in the SH the fans would fall too. I guess that doesn't happen up north with all of that luvly snow, sleet and hail.

	02-02-2004 06:09									#185
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon By which you mean wasting half the game until the opposition gets bored and goes to sleep?

Worked though, hasn't it.
Even at test level. Small thing, how a WC victory is important to some .

	02-02-2004 06:44									#186
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin You actually mean you are not Rugby educated enough to appreciate the hard work of a pack exhausting the opponent's forwards in order to allow the backs to have a good fun in the second half.

I gather that the same scientists who discovered and named the unit of time known as the nanosecond are now looking for a name for the new unit of time they've discovered - the polar opposite of the nanosecond - which they've defined as follows:

quote: "The time it takes for sixteen fat NH rugby forwards to remember why they shoved their heads up the arses of the fat blokes in front of them."

	02-02-2004 06:48									#187
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quote: Originally posted by flipside Small thing, how a WC victory is important to some .

An important event in the lives of those who concern themselves with such mundane matters.

Well, until we win it at which point it really will be important again anyway ...


In what may come as a shock to some, Blues 36 d Hurricanes 12 in one of the S12 pre-seasoners, and this in real (read non-NH) rugby.
The shock being not in the scoreline but, let me quote:

quote: All Black first five-eighth Carlos Spencer converted all five of his team's tries, also adding a penalty goal for good measure

Hark, was that a thump from yon Leicester way? - sounded a bit like somebody's head hitting the carpet in a dead faint.

	02-02-2004 06:53									#188
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quote: Originally posted by finbar I gather that the same scientists who discovered and named the unit of time known as the nanosecond are now looking for a name for the new unit of time they've discovered - the polar opposite of the nanosecond - which they've defined as follows:

That would be a gigasecond?

Approx 31.8 years so I guess M. Johnson retired when he figured this out rather than for his stated reasons?

	02-02-2004 07:11									#189
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon In what may come as a shock to some, Blues 36 d Hurricanes 12 in one of the S12 pre-seasoners, and this in real (read non-NH) rugby. The shock being not in the scoreline but, let me quote:

Mmmm. The quote didn't reappear. Anyway, it's no surprise at all. Carlos kicked like a champion through most of last year's S12. His problem is that he chokes under the pressure of competition at a higher level.

quote: Hark, was that a thump from yon Leicester way? - sounded a bit like somebody's head hitting the carpet in a dead faint.

Couldn't have been. He still hasn't pulled his head out of the dunny after the loss to Stade Français.

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quote: Originally posted by finbar I gather that the same scientists who discovered and named the unit of time known as the nanosecond are now looking for a name for the new unit of time they've discovered - the polar opposite of the nanosecond - which they've defined as follows:

In order.
4 years.
Bill.

	02-02-2004 07:26									#191
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You share Havak's problem - living in the past. Must be a NH thing.

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Well pride comes before a fall I guess.

Though the sad thing is I was right about Stade Francais - they were very poor, thoroughly one dimensional and went about the game exactly the way we expected - driving into the pocket for Dominguez to slot the points.

The big difference was the little Argnetinian Italian scored all but one opportunity - we missed six pots at the post and therefore lost the game.

Was Deano phased? Was he hell as like. He talked about aiming to finish 4th in the league now (we are currently 9th!) How long before he gets pushed now I wonder?

I hate to say it but Dally looked imperious as Wasps slaughtered Perpignan. I bet Stimpson and Luger are happy about their moves now?

You may construe it as sucking up to Tamerlin but I think Toulouse have to be favourites now - being gifted a home tie to an Edingburgh outfit they cruised past this weekend gioves them easy passage to the semis.

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The Blues - Hurricanes warm up match seems to show that the SH learnt nothing from their failure in the RWC then - same old boring continuity pap. Can we sue the SH over the use of 'Super' in the competition title - it seems blatant false advertising.

(Ravagon would have been disappointed if I hadn't replied this way)

	02-02-2004 14:35									#194
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Can we sue the SH over the use of 'Super' in the competition title - it seems blatant false advertising.

Hmmm .... "Zurich Premiership" ? ...

	02-02-2004 15:49									#195
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Yes, it is a silly name I agree. The concept being it is the Premier club competition in the world you see.

(S12, Celtic league etc being contested by franchises not clubs)

As for it's format - the thought of having to play at least 23 games to win a championship would scare most SH players off would it not? I wonder if anyone has told Larkham he will have to play so often?

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quote: Originally posted by Havak Though the sad thing is I was right about Stade Francais - they were very poor, thoroughly one dimensional and went about the game exactly the way we expected - driving into the pocket for Dominguez to slot the points.

Beaten by a very poor, one-dimensional team? Now you know how the Bath supporters have felt the last couple of seasons.

quote: You may construe it as sucking up to Tamerlin but I think Toulouse have to be favourites now - being gifted a home tie to an Edingburgh outfit they cruised past this weekend gioves them easy passage to the semis.

I wouldn't have thought slagging his team for an arsey draw constituted sucking up.

	02-02-2004 16:46									#197
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Hmmm .... "Zurich Premiership" ? ...

They only chose Zurich because no one could spell Ljubljana.

	02-02-2004 16:48									#198
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quote: Originally posted by Havak As for it's format - the thought of having to play at least 23 games to win a championship would scare most SH players off would it not? I wonder if anyone has told Larkham he will have to play so often?

He might only play half the matches but he'd have to travel to South Africa and New Zealand to win S12. How far do your chaps travel? East Cheam?

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quote: Beaten by a very poor, one-dimensional team? Now you know how the Bath supporters have felt the last couple of seasons.

I quite agree. Glaws beat them several times.

The match stats are telling. Dominguez 6/6 kicks at the sticks. Tigers 1/6. Two tries a piece though one of theirs was a blatantly offside interception in the last action of the game and the other a pushover try. Our tries came from open play from Ellis and Smith. So as I say they were poor, and we should have beaten them. The scoreline flatters them immensely. Munster will take them apart. I will sing the Fields of Athenry with gusto to make it happen.

The Smith try was exceptional – bursting through a tackle and then running three quarters the length of the pitch. With Abbot and Tindall crocked he looks like a sure thing for the six nations.

I strongly suspect Llanelli will brush aside Biaritz as well. Perhaps Glaws are the only away side with any realistic chance of a win (though slim - Wasps jinx them). But who will you support in that one Finbar?

quote: I wouldn't have thought slagging his team for an arsey draw constituted sucking up.

It does in the East Midlands.

To clarify I believe Toulouse and Wasps look the class acts left in the draw – followed by Munster and Scarlets. The away sides should all be Canon fodder - Glaws have a chance perhaps as I acknowledge above.

quote: They only chose Zurich because no one could spell Ljubljana.

Because they found a sponsor where S12 has failed?

quote: He might only play half the matches but he'd have to travel to South Africa and New Zealand to win S12. How far do your chaps travel? East Cheam?

Where is that?

In the Parker Pen Shield he might be asked to travel as far as Northern Italy – but in the Premiership (before you remind me that is what we were discussing?!) the furthest he will travel will be Leeds and Stockport (where Manchester suburb Sale now play – go figure!).

Are we on a sort of ‘Dermot piccie a day’ thing at the moment Finbar?

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And as I ask earlier in the day how long it would be - Dean Richards was sacked by Leicester Tigers on Monday afternoon.

Thanks for everything you have put in to the club over the last 23 years Deano - I am sorry it came to this but it seemed radical change had become unavoidable.

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quote: Originally posted by Havak Two tries a piece though one of theirs was a blatantly offside interception in the last action of the game

Quelle surprise.

quote: and the other a pushover try.

The mighty Tigers pack? Pushed over their own line? Presumably J****'s mind was elsewhere - contemplating nominating for the coaching job. He would've known of what was to transpire on Monday.

quote: But who will you support in that one Finbar?

Gloucester against whom?

quote: It does in the East Midlands.

That qualifies the East Midlands as honorary Australians.

quote: Because they found a sponsor where S12 has failed?

Speaking of which, Channel 7, after farting around with the programming of S12, sometimes showing matches at 2am, has now dropped their S12 coverage altogether. They claim that the restrictions - not being allowed to show matches live (restricted to a two hour delay), and only being allowed to show matches played within Australia - made it not worthwhile. Even if they had been allowed to show matches live, they wouldn't have. Their attitude - holding back replays till 2am - was indicative of their contempt for the product.

All of which means that ravagon will have to raid his kiwibank and install Foxtel if he wants to watch S12 this season.

quote: Where is that?

I was inspired to resurrect East Cheam after watching a couple of eps of "Hancock's Half Hour" on cable recently. Gee, he was good.

quote: the furthest he will travel will be Leeds and Stockport

Yep. The equivalent of Canberra to Queenbeyan. I rest my case.

quote: Are we on a sort of ‘Dermot piccie a day’ thing at the moment Finbar?

I have to justify the exorbitant cost of the digital camera somehow!

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quote: Originally posted by Havak And as I ask earlier in the day how long it would be - Dean Richards was sacked by Leicester Tigers on Monday afternoon. Thanks for everything you have put in to the club over the last 23 years Deano - I am sorry it came to this but it seemed radical change had become unavoidable.

Now it will be very interesting to see what happens. Was the problem at the top? Or at the top and on the field? I suspect the latter. Presumably the new regime will wield a broom?

	03-02-2004 06:21									#203
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Speaking of which, Channel 7, after farting around with the programming of S12, sometimes showing matches at 2am, has now dropped their S12 coverage altogether. They claim that the restrictions - not being allowed to show matches live (restricted to a two hour delay), and only being allowed to show matches played within Australia - made it not worthwhile. Even if they had been allowed to show matches live, they wouldn't have. Their attitude - holding back replays till 2am - was indicative of their contempt for the product.

:Very bloody annoyed:

quote: All of which means that ravagon will have to raid his kiwibank and install Foxtel if he wants to watch S12 this season.

For all the good that'd do me ... The one good thing about their coverage was the fact that it was delayed. I would've never been able to see it live except for the odd day-nighter that started late.
Late-night replays were fine as they were. It just meant that I yawned a bit more during work the next day.

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quote: Originally posted by ravagon :Very bloody annoyed: It just meant that I yawned a bit more during work the next day.

The buggers don't even notice if I do.
As long as I don't actually fall down dead they are happy.

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quote: Originally posted by finbar I was inspired to resurrect East Cheam after watching a couple of eps of "Hancock's Half Hour" on cable recently. Gee, he was good.

They are running a series about the Top Ten Sitcom's at the moment over here. It is on BBC2.
Surprisingly, as part of the current drive to reduce costs, it only includes BBC programs
There are, however, many great moments involved.
My favourite is "Fawlty Towers," although, episodes of "Only Fools and Horses", "Blackadder", and some classic Hancock such as "The Blood Doner" run it close.

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quote: Originally posted by finbar Yep. The equivalent of Canberra to Queenbeyan. I rest my case.

Really. The Defence is probably asleep but may wish to consider this.
IIRC.

Campo is from Queenbeyan.
Campo is Satan himself.
Satan is from hell.
Ergo, Queenbeyan is hell.

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quote: Originally posted by flipside As long as I don't actually fall down dead they are happy.

I frequently do and no one notices.

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quote: Originally posted by flipside They are running a series about the Top Ten Sitcom's at the moment over here. It is on BBC2. Surprisingly, as part of the current drive to reduce costs, it only includes BBC programs There are, however, many great moments involved. My favourite is "Fawlty Towers," although, episodes of "Only Fools and Horses", "Blackadder", and some classic Hancock such as "The Blood Doner" run it close.

Yes, they're all classics. One of the benefits of cable - they all get a regular airing. Both "Fawlty Towers" and "Blackadder" are playing here at the moment. And, of course, "Hancock".

We're also getting 4 year-old eps of "So Graham Norton". Very funny man.

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quote: Originally posted by flipside Really. The Defence is probably asleep but may wish to consider this. IIRC. Campo is from Queenbeyan. Campo is Satan himself. Satan is from hell. Ergo, Queenbeyan is hell.

Oh ye of little knowledge. If Campo had been born in Oodnadatta, Queenbeyan would still be hell.

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quote: Quelle surprise.

Actually it really was. I call them as I see them – and Stade were camped offside as Roland ignored all aspects of those laws all night.

quote: The mighty Tigers pack? Pushed over their own line?

Mauled over their own line from a line out – how the mighty are fallen.

quote: He would've known of what was to transpire on Monday.

And again he is far smarter than most people give him credit for – he will remember the Deano inspired push that got rid of Bob, and that Dean was so well in with the board he could never be ‘sacked’ by them – Martin will be aware that if he takes the coaches role it’s success or bust -regardless of how high his stock is with the club right now.

quote: Gloucester against whom?

London Wasps. Dally’s mob.

quote: That qualifies the East Midlands as honorary Australians.

What a terrifying thought!

quote: Their attitude - holding back replays till 2am - was indicative of their contempt for the product.

They couldn’t be shown live??? Only soccer has such stupid restrictions surely?

Agree totally about Hancock incidentally.

quote: Now it will be very interesting to see what happens. Was the problem at the top? Or at the top and on the field? I suspect the latter. Presumably the new regime will wield a broom?

From what I hear the board insisted on very specific personnel changes – including a player the crowd thinks is currently useless but Dean praised every week (no names no pack drill). Dean refused so the board asked him to leave. I believe there will be a big clear out very soon.

quote: Surprisingly, as part of the current drive to reduce costs, it only includes BBC programs

Just a thought but can you name a decent ITV sitcom? ITV is strong for drama but it’s sitcoms are b***** awful. The Upper Hand springs to mind straight away. :shudder: