29-01-2004 08:53									#31
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We have recieved the following reply to my earlier message:

quote: Greetings Hive Comrades. We have discussed your offer in our forums and it is the overwheming consensus that we accept the Hive-Drone offer of protection and safe haven. We are doing our fastest to build a sea colony pod and or a colony pod for transport to your shores/ general terrority. In the meantime we send you Doc:Ini pre accepted in order that you might build a faster craft(s) to escort/protect us as we approach your waters. There is the vague possibility that we can build a probe unit in time to probe Data Roze for non linear. But we lack Biogenetics. If, when you examine the turn you see a probe foil under construction in Atlantis then the possibility becomes real. In the meantime we look forward to co-operation with you. Btw Of the Pirates who passed an opinion, they all opted for the Hive offer. We hope this offer is genuine. Yours Cap'n hercules

	29-01-2004 08:57									#32
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As a wise man once said....

Excellent

	29-01-2004 11:30									#33
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quote: We have discussed your offer in our forums and it is the overwheming consensus that we accept the Hive-Drone offer of protection and safe haven.

I think there's been someone you've been leaving out of loop?

This faction has grown slack since my departure.

	29-01-2004 12:22									#34
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This comrade has missed your presence, Comrade Kody.

	29-01-2004 13:40									#35
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We can offer the Pirates protection (one freaking base) without having to crawl to the Drones and beg them for permission.

-Jam

	30-01-2004 16:59									#36
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Frankychan,

Thanks

So many things I want to remind you guys now that the war is going to start soon. Then there's the mircomanagement that needs to be done to build the cloudbase and also the invasion force. Also wondering if hive definiately got MMI this turn?

*sigh*

However hands are tied. I better stop checking this forum otherwise I'll have the urge to get seriously involved again.

Oh I'm also so glad that all the infighting has finally stopped (at least it seems that way).

	30-01-2004 21:03									#37
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You should defintely comeback! I did!

	30-01-2004 21:10									#38
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Kody's PhD confirmation is in March I think. We should definitely try to get him back after that.

	31-01-2004 03:43									#39
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holy crap! Congrats! PhD in what?

	31-01-2004 03:43									#40
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Yes - real life must take prescedance.

	31-01-2004 03:59									#41
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What do you think he does the best?

	31-01-2004 04:05									#42
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You mean besides being spamming, like the rest of us?

	31-01-2004 04:13									#43
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Kody is actually very proud that he rakes post count without spamming the last period when he was with us. Talking about spamming I think I can perhaps finish my own PhD based on that.

	31-01-2004 05:45									#44
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu Kody's PhD confirmation is in March I think. We should definitely try to get him back after that.

Does this mean we should prepare ourselves to start addressing him as Doctor Kody?

Mead

	31-01-2004 05:52									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Kody Frankychan, Thanks So many things I want to remind you guys now that the war is going to start soon. Then there's the mircomanagement that needs to be done to build the cloudbase and also the invasion force. Also wondering if hive definiately got MMI this turn? *** Oh I'm also so glad that all the infighting has finally stopped (at least it seems that way).

Yes, from my look at the save, we got MMI and will have Cloudbase this turn. It looks like we might get some of the other SPs (without breaking our agreement with the Drones, because the Drones can not get them all before CyCon) too.


You are right. It looks like the infighting has stopped.

We have a good team, that is pulling together, as a team, which is good because it looks like war will be upon us rather soon.


Mead

	31-01-2004 06:38									#46
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As for what I'm studying Digital Electronics. I won't bore you guys with the details, because frowning gives people wrinkles.

quote: We have a good team, that is pulling together, as a team, which is good because it looks like war will be upon us rather soon.

I'm quite happy the way things are turning out in the hive. I'm all hopeful again.

Although some of you didn't like Enigma and I understand why. I still feel that he's managed to bring the hive forward a fair amount in the last few turns. Even if you don't agree with his ideas and his comments that have inflamed people, you still have to be thankful that he carried us to this critical point of the hive's development.

Basically there's two things left.
1 - Build army and smash University
2 - Keep Peace alive so their players aren't assimilated by the Cycon.

If those two things go successfully I don't see what can go wrong.

Anyway I better get back to work.

	31-01-2004 09:33									#47
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Yes when I look at the turn I couldn't help to think how much Enigma has helped with the turn. He really has done a very good job.

	05-02-2004 03:50									#48
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quote: Greetings Voltaire, Our Cap'ns as you are I hope by now aware, totally with you on way forward , if we can hold out. As stated we will be sending you our techs and maps, next turn regardless of what happens. To try to ensure Peace survival you might care to consider further courses of action. 1. Rush a Sea colony pod and launch it close to you but in our direction. Leave it empty. One of our schooners might just be able to reach it faster than our transport. Then change our Peace Hive relationship from Pact to Treaty (consult first, if and when this would be necessary), so that we can invade without having our forces need to withdraw back to a base in our territory. 2. Capture a Data Jack base, near to you and also leave it empty. However the risk here is that DJ might steal it back again before we get there and even if we get there. As you can see we are considering everything. After our next turn we will know what is and what is not possible for us. One last possibility is that you indicate to the Cycon that you will intervene on our behalf if they do not stop the war. Best wishes Cap'n Hercules. Please, find attached to our Jumbo parrot, one of the last remaining barrels of 40 Year Old Xenorum.

	05-02-2004 03:58									#49
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Should we send them the plan or do we need more discussions?

quote: Before the next turn the Hive will try to stall the CCs by telling them that their proposals regarding us pacting with uni and further cooperations have been heatedly discussed inside the Hive. After we receive the next turn (2156), the Hive will downgrade the CC pact into treaty (so that they won't see our military preparation). Send them an official message saying that the CC univ pact has caused uneasiness from the people of the Hive and we would like to have more time to consider this situation. Turn 2158, the Hive or PEACE propose a planetary concil meeting demanding the CC stops aggressiveness against the PEACE and return half of the PEACE bases. As the governor the Drones will have to lead this meeting. The votes will be 3 vs 2. We give the CC 1 - 2 turns to respond. It will be hard to manage the return of the bases if they accept but they will not accept. Turn 2159, the Hive, Drones and Peace declare vendetta against CPU. We attack university land.

	05-02-2004 04:02									#50
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Holy crap, is it THAT bad for the PEACE? It sounds like they are desperate for possibilites. That means that the CyCon must have a pretty big military by now.......things don't look good for them.

We must show them Hive hospitality......and no, not the assimilation-and-nerve staple routine.....

	05-02-2004 04:15									#51
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Oh man *Puts jumbo nerve stapler away*

	05-02-2004 05:45									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Holy crap, is it THAT bad for the PEACE? It sounds like they are desperate for possibilites. That means that the CyCon must have a pretty big military by now.......things don't look good for them. ***

Just look at the infiltration reports.

It is OK, but not huge. It can (will) grow.

When I looked in 2155 I saw about 6 to 10 impact amphibious units, and maybe a couple of transports and ships, in addtion to their sentries.


In 2156 I will look again and use a pen and pad to track, as best I can, what they have where, and what they are building.


Mead

	05-02-2004 06:41									#53
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can you get a screen shot? I can't see it....i don't have 'X'

	05-02-2004 09:59									#54
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I had a couple minutes to look at the infiltration window too. Looks like the PEACE has 5 bases left, but this next turn we can expect they will lose some more. Let's hope they will not lose all of them. They are short of energy too, so can't rush military units a lot. The next turn I will try to see how situation is and perhaps we will loan them a couple bucks.

	05-02-2004 13:23									#55
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If they have 10 amphibious Impact units and transports in the PEACE area, they can attack us within 3-6 turns. Owch. Those Impact Marines are capable of taking 3 or 4 bases on the first attack with our current defenses, without any warning.

-Jam

	06-02-2004 21:15									#56
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So do you suggest that we add a +3 armor garrison in the coastle cities on our east?

Another thought, since they don't have DAP yet, that means they don't have air supior ability right? In other words they can't attack planes and choppers? Would it be sufficient then if we put a needlejet or chopper in all the coastle cities? Then they can't even attack it?

	07-02-2004 01:59									#57
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Sorry, they can attack planes in bases, and the planes defend with the armour value too Planes in base die, HongHu.

Red armour might not be a bad idea, but we need some patrols to sink the foils/cruisers too. They may also use probe foils to BUY a base, so infantry probe teams would be needed UNLESS we can get a screen to stop them reaching the shore.

-Jam

	07-02-2004 03:25									#58
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Got you. We don't have many coastle bases IIRC. But I'll try add a red army and a defense probe in all bases one tile from eastern coast and try order some noodles patrolling our coastline (if only I know how to do it ).

	07-02-2004 03:27									#59
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I also asked that question in the help forum. This way the CCs would know that we are really worried about our defense when we want to lower pact to treaty next turn.

	10-02-2004 01:14									#60
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I have sent this email to Hercules.

quote: Cap'n Hercules: I have been the turn player for the Hive for the last turn. I have not accepted your map and techs. The Hive doesn't want to get impact, IB and Social Psych because it will increase our tech cost. I am sorry that I have not communicated with you promptly in the past. Please send Progenitor Psych, Adaptive Economics and your map to us the next turn. If you have not received DAP from the Drones, I will send it to you if you want it. I was also planning to send you some ecs to aid your rush of military units although it now becomes unlikely because another comrade has used up 1/3 of our ec reserves for the next turn. Please let me know if you do have a need for ecs and I'll try to see if I can still squeesh some for you the next turn. Also I would like to notify you that the Hive has downgraded our pact with the CCs to a treaty. Starting the next turn or two we plan to go ahead and press some political pressures on the CCs to stop the CC-PEACE war. Specifically, we will perhaps initiate a planet council on the matters of CC-PEACE war. The votes are expected to be 3 for vs 2 against the ending of war with the two votes uncertain from the AIs. Our information is that the gods may want to act for the AIs. A cruiser is heading your way to meet the colony pod. A noodle will perhaps also set off the next turn to meet you. Be careful and stay safe. Comrade HongHu