24-01-2004 05:09									#1
	Hall of Fame bug? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Just finished my first 1.15 BETA game, and to my surprise it was not recorded in the HOF. In fact, none of my epic games were, though the Conquest scenarios I had attempted were listed.


Anyone else experience this?

	24-01-2004 06:04									#2
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AFAIK the score are not recorded for any games with mods. Epics should work otherwise.

	24-01-2004 08:24									#3
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

The HOF is now reserved for the Conquests (scenarios), to keep track when they are all successfully completed.

	24-01-2004 09:09									#4
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But if you hit the little circle OK button at the bottom of the screen in the Conquests (scenario) HOF, it takes you to what ostensibly is the epic HOF, and that is what is empty in my game.

	24-01-2004 12:06									#5
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It DOES???!
I had just 'X'd out, so I wouldn't have known (and I just shut down my wintel).

I may have to fall back onto vmxa1's response: If you made any non-graphic modifications to the game (in the Editor) it won't qualify for the HOF.

	24-01-2004 12:34									#6
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I have had score in my HoF and I only play epic games, other than ones I DL from the board. Looking at the files they seem to have A CampaingRecord.hof and HighScores.cv3.

The later has the epic scores.

	24-01-2004 15:37									#7
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I can confirm this - I have played no Conquests yet AT ALL and still have HOF scores.

	24-01-2004 22:09									#8
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Hmmm... come to think of it, I did make some rule changes--no cities in desert/tundra/jungle, no mines in grassland. Because of that, no high scores recorded?

Weak.

	24-01-2004 22:27									#9
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Yeah I agree. I see no reason to not let peole have their scores. In fact it would be useful if it contained more information about the game settings. Then I could look back and see if I ever played a huge map with this or that settings and what civs.

Now I don't have any use for it.

	24-01-2004 22:28									#10
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a nice expanded HoF would be high up on my list for civ4

	24-01-2004 23:00									#11
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It would be best to have seperate scores for moded games.

	25-01-2004 02:13									#12
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They could put an "*" next to any that did not conform. This could be part of the give us more data on the game I would like to see.
Why not record what civs were in the game and the score for them as well?

	25-01-2004 03:58									#13
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yeah exactly, I think it´s fun to think about all the old games when I look at my HoF, but you can´t remember everything so why not have some more facts? How hard could this be to implement?

	26-01-2004 19:02									#14
	HOF stinks Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

I am not a fan of the HOF either. I modify the standard rule set with each new release. I get tired of seeing New Berlin and New Berlin (2) type of cities all over the place. So I change the rule set to add more city names. This then prevents my scores frmo being recorded in the HOF.

I have been clamoring for the '*' to signify a modded game since the orginal Civ3 was released. But it does not happen. I like the idea of having more details available if you want - such as other civs, their scores, when I eradicated them, etc....

I have taken to adding my own scores to the HOF file. Since it is a text file, it can be edited with any text editor. I just keep track of my final score and then make the entry myself.

	26-01-2004 21:47									#15
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the thing that bugs me the most is why they don´t just fix this, how hard could it be? If they are afraid that people will manipulate the game to get high scores who cares? you can edit the scores as it is now anyway...

Firaxis

	26-01-2004 21:51									#16
	Increase Your PM Length

That is the crux of it all. No one is going to look at a posted HoF and accept it anyway, so let us have it.

It is true we can edit it, but it would be nice if it was more robust and extracted the data for you.

I think it is a lost cause.

	27-01-2004 19:01									#17
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the last thing that is lost is the hope

	27-02-2004 02:04									#18
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Things others may have known but I didn’t until I played out the games. There are some things you can change in the Editor which don’t alter your ability to land a score on the HOF.

I played a game on a map generated in the Editor where I gave myself more starting units (lots and lots more) in the “Scenario” screen to compensate for playing at a SID level. I didn’t alter anything else. This game recorded in the HOF.

I also generated a map and checked off the "allow X and Y axis" so I could sail naval units around the world in any direction. This game also recorded.

	27-02-2004 02:18									#19
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I thought scenario maps were valid, as long as you do not use custom rules?