24-01-2004 15:24									#1
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OK, I have the folder with some of the fies (graphics, a few txtx), and when I load the sav, to start using the ingame editor, it crashes. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

Attachment: red tide.zip
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Last edited by GoPostal on 05-02-2004 at 22:28

	24-01-2004 15:25									#2
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I think it is this file

Attachment: units.gif
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	24-01-2004 15:49									#3
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The units file had the wrong palette loaded, Go_Postal. I've loaded the civ palette into it; give this a try:

Edit: There was a more fundamental prblem than that when I loaded into civ; I think you hadn't saved in the correct gif format. Are you using Windows Paint? If so, it's entirely rubbish - get yourself PSP

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	24-01-2004 15:58									#4
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It's not just the units but all the GIF files, I'm afraid. At least, the Cities.gif too.

	24-01-2004 16:01									#5
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Here's a version that works in civ. I cut and pasted your units into a working units file:

Attachment: units.gif
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	24-01-2004 19:15									#6
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OK, I am using Photoshop Elements 2

How do I fix the current ones, and how do I avoid this in future?

How do I apply palettes? I applied the Civ2 one on Indexed Colour.

And thanks

	24-01-2004 20:36									#7
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I've got just a very general question here, what is this scenario about? It looks to be about soviet naval expansion at or around the 1970's to 80's, is that the gist of it?

Also, I'm not sure that's the correct Il-38, I believe the Il-38 marine patrol craft was a standard tail and did not have a protruding cockpit.

http://www.butovo.com/~nw/images/IL/Il-38%20side.htm

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	24-01-2004 20:49									#8
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Here's a reference pic of one from the above mentioned site.

Attachment: il-38_russian_navy.jpg
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	24-01-2004 21:09									#9
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I know it isn't, that is just the best pic I could do myself, and it is not that well known, so I thought I could get away with it

(foiled again)

	24-01-2004 22:29									#10
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Another Soviet takeover scenario!

Welcome to the club!

	25-01-2004 03:03									#11
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Don't get over-excited, this is going to be more cruelsea than soviet steel, and will probably result in the Reds getting whipped

	25-01-2004 03:44									#12
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A cold war Cruel Sea eh? Sounds like fun. Need a title screen by any chance?

	25-01-2004 08:23									#13
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Any new scen gets me enthusiastic!

	25-01-2004 13:45									#14
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Hadn't thought of that Sarsstock, I do.

	25-01-2004 14:23									#15
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So, if the Soviets get whipped, then the playable civ would be NATO, right?

	25-01-2004 15:37									#16
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They will both be playable, I will either have different scoring, or a bat file. I will need to playtest a bit, Can anyone explain to me how to avoid what yasev said.

	25-01-2004 16:06									#17
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It's 'jasev'

Try to copy every graphic file to a working file. For example, open your 'cities.gif' and the original 'cities.gif' civ2 file with PSP or Photoshop. Select all your file, copy & paste over the original. Then save the original as your file (mode 89a, non-interlaced). It should work.

	25-01-2004 17:03									#18
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Sorry about the name, and that is what I did (I think)

	25-01-2004 18:41									#19
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quote: Originally posted by jasev It's not just the units but all the GIF files, I'm afraid. At least, the Cities.gif too.

All the graphics files have the wrong palette, as Jasev says.

Go_Postal: load up the civ palette into each image and save. There is another problem, though, as you'll find some of the colours which civ sees as transparent are wrong also, and you may have saved in the wrong interlaced gif format; I'll have a look at sorting them out.

	25-01-2004 20:00									#20
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Some gfx editors are incapable of saving in the gif format Civ2 requires (at least in my hands). MS Photo Editor is one. An early version of PSP (3?) was another. Merc had noted that the early version of PSP that I had used added a few unrecognizable (by ToT) bytes to the normal gif file. Don't panic though, later versions work great.

	25-01-2004 21:50									#21
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Thanks for the help, I am using PSE 2, do I need to create a palette from scratch? I have attached the file I am using - Civ2.act

Attachment: civ2.zip
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	25-01-2004 22:04									#22
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OK, I have corrected this, by taking the palette files for normal and city in Scenario League tips area, and made them into palettes, and applied them. Is this correct?

Attachment: terrain2.gif
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	25-01-2004 22:06									#23
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And this?

Attachment: cities.gif
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	05-02-2004 22:31									#24
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OK, I am getting Grey bits where the purple bits on unit squares are on all ocean terrain: here is my current terrains 1 and 2

Attachment: terrain1.gif
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	05-02-2004 22:32									#25
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Terrain 2

Attachment: terrain2.gif
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	05-02-2004 22:40									#26
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Any chance of an in-game screenie?

	05-02-2004 22:55									#27
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Yeah, here it is: (not final map, not even map)

Attachment: screwed.jpg
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	06-02-2004 00:33									#28
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Paint every gray bit on terrain2 purple.. especially within the green lines.. that's why the ocean get grey thingys.. it has happened to me hundreds of times too hehe

edit: same on the forrest btw.., paint it all purple ;D

	06-02-2004 06:06									#29
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Even easier, use the palette of the units.gif on all your files (make sure to "maintain indexes"). That'll get rid of all the nasty gray. Simply save the palette of the units.gif, and load it for every civ2 file you make. There's no reason whatsoever to be using different ones.

And it's not advisable to just turn everything purple, because you'll lose the helpful diamond background. That can only be done when you're done with your graphics (so you don't need to know what the square looks like anymore), so you'd have to do it every single time, by hand. If you just load the units palette, right at the start, everything is taken care of, without any hassle.

quote: Originally posted by jasev (mode 89a, non-interlaced). It should work.

87a!!

	06-02-2004 22:37									#30
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Well, that is fixed now, but thanks.