25-01-2004 13:10									#1
	VBulletin Version 3? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

A couple of other forums I frequent have updated their vBulletin boards to version 3, and I must say I like the change. Is there any hope that in the future Poly will be going that route?

	25-01-2004 13:33									#2
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No.

	25-01-2004 13:49									#3
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Imran,

Which aspect(s) do you like?

	25-01-2004 13:59									#4
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To put it differently, what is new?

IIRC Markos said he would make the change once it had proven itself. (This was some time ago though)

	25-01-2004 14:15									#5
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As far as I know markos sees no need to update, and also all the forum hacks in place makes it very hard to perform an upgrade to VB3. Eventually it will come, but probably not as long as markos isn't very active.

	25-01-2004 17:35									#6
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The forum hacks are what are keeping us from upgrading.
It will be a difficult task getting all the hacks installed in the new version of VB3, if only because there are so many of them.

	25-01-2004 18:15									#7
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Some hacks wouldn't be compatible with this new version either.
As long security isn't compromised, there's no need to upgrade.

	25-01-2004 18:32									#8
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Although new features need to be weighed against features lost.

	25-01-2004 18:38									#9
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Is there any list available to compare from?

	25-01-2004 19:15									#10
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http://www.vbulletin.com/features/index.html has a list of features available in VB3. Obviously, there is no list as such for Apolyton's hacks.

	25-01-2004 20:16									#11
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Your list only includes majur VB features, all already in VB2

	25-01-2004 20:24									#12
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Twas the only list I could find. Feel free to search for a more indepth one.

	25-01-2004 20:43									#13
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Personally, I don't see a problem with the way things work now. Upgrading for just upgradings sake doesn't necessarily make sense. The old adage of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" would seem to apply.

	25-01-2004 21:31									#14
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I don't have time looking for feature lists. However, I did some remembering, trying to figure out what hacks are installed on Poly

• Attachments as files
  
• Avatars as files
  
• civgroups (the icon and forum permission part + memberlist action groupmembers)
  
• Country flags
  
• Directory User integration
  
• Dr Spike competion #1
  
• my threads
  
• archive in of database tables
  
• date/time format user option
  
• forum cache
  
• quick reply
  
• quick PM reply
  
• downlaod PMs
  
• Who am I a buddy of
  
• /me vBcode
  
• my notepad
  
• adjusted forum pages based on server load (avatars on/off and similar)
  
• multiple chooise polls
  
• IRC chat integration
  
• Today's Registrations: (I think)
  
• other internal code changes related to ads (go.php)
  
• some features of which I may not speak
  

	25-01-2004 21:36									#15
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forgot the upload feature

	25-01-2004 22:05									#16
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That is a lot of great features.

	25-01-2004 22:47									#17
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What "extras" could an upgrade bring that would risk losing (even temporarily) the list Gramphos just posted?

	26-01-2004 01:06									#18
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Some different colour schemes would be good. I hate all the ones on here.

	26-01-2004 04:35									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos forgot the upload feature

You can't really count that one though.
Considering it doesn't work.

	26-01-2004 04:40									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns You can't really count that one though. Considering it doesn't work.

Well, it isn't mush of a forum hack either. just the username part, and I think tha (if it had worked now) it still would work with VB3

	26-01-2004 05:35									#21
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quote: Which aspect(s) do you like?

It's faster for one (on the forums I've used it on). Has a very nice great look. Much easier Search function (a pop down box instead of a new page if you want). They have searches in specific threads (for the monster 400 post threads). And a lot of stuff has been combined or made into pop down bars for easy access. And my favorite: Active Viewers of THREADS.

quote: What "extras" could an upgrade bring that would risk losing (even temporarily) the list Gramphos just posted?

Most of those are included, such as Quick Reply, mult choice polls, and attachments (IIRC).

	26-01-2004 08:57									#22
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I quick reply.

	26-01-2004 09:25									#23
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Me too .

And I your avatar.

	26-01-2004 10:42									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos [*]Dr Spike competion #1

This is a forum hack? What did I miss?

	26-01-2004 10:54									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Which aspect(s) do you like? It's faster for one (on the forums I've used it on).

This other one I frequent has constant database troubles

	26-01-2004 11:56									#26
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And it just is cooler looking.. damn it .

	26-01-2004 12:14									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And it just is cooler looking.. damn it .

It's a styles question, and all the old styles would have to beturned into VB3 format with an upgrade. (That's an enourmous ammount of work)

	26-01-2004 12:18									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: What "extras" could an upgrade bring that would risk losing (even temporarily) the list Gramphos just posted? Most of those are included, such as Quick Reply, mult choice polls, and attachments (IIRC).

Well, I would guess that the mult choice polls and attachment (as files???) are incompatible withe the current hacks, since both of them have involved changes in the database structure. So even if VB3 has similar stuff it isn't sure that it will work the same in the backend. And what I think of VB3 is that it still uses the old attachments backedn sytem, but allows multiple attachments in the same post (IIRC) (But I've not seen a feature list since some time during VB3 alpha phase)

	26-01-2004 12:43									#29
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet This is a forum hack? What did I miss?

Well spotted!
I missed that one.

	26-01-2004 13:09									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos It's a styles question, and all the old styles would have to beturned into VB3 format with an upgrade. (That's an enourmous ammount of work)

I think you can do it with CSS.