31-01-2004 08:57									#181
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue UR: What would you consider to be that is going further than oral sex, but not as far as penetrative sex?

I don't think that's possible.

quote: Originally posted by Drogue If they were to use dildos or vibrators, that would not be losing their virginity.

It's the experience, so for all intents and purposes, making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing. I cannot see any bona fide differences here.

quote: Originally posted by Drogue Indeed, is it possible to lose your virginity while you're partner remains a virgin?

Sure... you can be unfaithful, for one thing

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	31-01-2004 09:23									#182
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quote: making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing

I must disagree. Women who masturbate with toys have not lost their virginity. They must have sex with another person, in my book.

	31-01-2004 11:42									#183
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger It's the experience, so for all intents and purposes, making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing. I cannot see any bona fide differences here.

I can think of a few

quote: quote: Indeed, is it possible to lose your virginity while you're partner remains a virgin? Sure... you can be unfaithful, for one thing

	31-01-2004 20:06									#184
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha still no link?

I found her official website (the best bid last I checked is up to 1,000 pounds and change, believe it or not), but I don't want to post a link because the site has a pic that could be considered pornographic and I don't wanna be Ming's ho for two weeks. I'm pretty sure it's harmless-it's just a shot from the back, you can barely see her nipple if that-but still, not worth the risk IMO.

	31-01-2004 20:14									#185
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I don't think that's possible.

But if oral sex does not lose your virginity, and penetrative sex does, for there to be a way of losing your virginity other than penetrative sex, there would need to be something between the two?

quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger It's the experience, so for all intents and purposes, making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing. I cannot see any bona fide differences here.

So a man using a dildo on a women means she loses her virginity? Does it mean he does?

quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Sure... you can be unfaithful, for one thing

What I meant is, if a women performs various things on another women, that you would classify as enough to lose her virginity, would they both lose their virginity, or would only the one receiving?

Basically, I'm trying to ask what actions you would class as enough to count as losing your virginity? Personally, I think only penetrative sex would count, since in a heterosexual relationship that does not include penetrative sex, they could both still be virgins, and I think the action is what removes your virginity, the emotion.

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	31-01-2004 20:18									#186
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quote: Originally posted by Verres well dont say i didnt offer

I won't

quote: Originally posted by Whoha still no link?

My, someone's interested

	01-02-2004 09:00									#187
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue But if oral sex does not lose your virginity, and penetrative sex does, for there to be a way of losing your virginity other than penetrative sex, there would need to be something between the two?

I don't think the two limited themselves to only oral sex.

quote: Originally posted by Drogue So a man using a dildo on a women means she loses her virginity? Does it mean he does?

The basis (for me at least) to make such a distinction is the experience, not the form. Suppose our baseline of, uh, losing one's virginity is "having sexual intercourse," than anybody who has engaged in sexual intercourse won't be a virgin anymore.

quote: Originally posted by Drogue What I meant is, if a women performs various things on another women, that you would classify as enough to lose her virginity, would they both lose their virginity, or would only the one receiving?

See above.

quote: Originally posted by Drogue Basically, I'm trying to ask what actions you would class as enough to count as losing your virginity?

I am trying not to be explicit here

	07-02-2004 20:25									#188
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Whew, it took some digging to find this again. Anyway, guys, place your bids NOW! Currently at 5200 pounds-something like seven grand American, I think. Pretty sad. But still, less than 48 hours left before the auction closes!
I won't link it for the reasons I stated before, but the official page has some funny, if stupid and militant-lesbian, lines. Google for rosieharmen (all one word).

	07-02-2004 20:45									#189
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I would offer £2...but the ginger factor has knocked that down to 66p...and that's my final offer

	07-02-2004 22:19									#190
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so its not fake.

	07-02-2004 23:31									#191
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If she is going to do a lesbo thing though, I will put my offer back at £2

	07-02-2004 23:36									#192
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its not fake

http://mail.yahoo.com

test link

	08-02-2004 12:33									#193
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Well, that definitely is not the link.