28-01-2004 13:49									#1
	Do MMORPG's ever die? Got spare money?

I think I read in a magzine that Ultima online is still around. It seems as if that game has been around a while. And Everquest will still continue after Everquest 2 comes out.

But what about games that don't do well. Are they ever cancelled? Or do they have enough paying customers to keep it going on a small scale?

	28-01-2004 17:32									#2
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I've never heard of a MMORPG shutting down. I mean, even The Realm is still going. But they can die away to much less than they originally where. Shadowbane has.

Ultima Online couldn't even be called the same game, they've changed it so much.

Everquest probably has 3 times the content it did when released from all those damned expansions.

	28-01-2004 17:47									#3
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compuserve was bought out by aol i believe, and Sierra On-Line went belly up. Prodigy also died, but i they didn't have as many games as the others.

	28-01-2004 22:15									#4
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Many of the 1st (or should that be 0th?) generation have shut down. Others like the Realm have downscaled to the point of being only minimally rather than massively multiplayer

I'd expect the newer and bigger games to suffer from this more. Once they fail as a major commercial product then they will not be able to be run by a couple of dozen fans on a single server so they will close for good. I can only think of Motor City online at the moment but recent disappointing games may well soon follow.

	29-01-2004 07:30									#5
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A game with more than two players and a multiplayer function never dies.

Unless both players are just really incredibly boring.

	29-01-2004 07:42									#6
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has star wars galaxies improved at all, I heard it was a major disappointment. ANybody play Final Fantasy XI (or whatever is online) and what are your thoughs.

	29-01-2004 12:50									#7
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galaxies now has mounts and vehicles. And the developers "nudged" players to finally discover how to be a jedi. They had to make it easier I suppose. And still only a few have become jedi I believe.

But I don't think that does anything for the gameplay. Which I believe is still lacking in some areas.

I only seen it on my brother's computer. I still have yet to buy a mmorpg . I have thought about buying everquest, but I never have. I may buy everquest 2, but I'm beginning to think that isn't a good idea. I may get world of warcraft as well even though I have never played any of the warcraft games.

	24-02-2004 10:09									#8
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I think Star Wars Galaxies pretty much killed itself by coming into existence in the first place

	29-02-2004 13:09									#9
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Speaking of MMORPG's, what, other than Everquest, is a good mmorpg to invest in?

	29-02-2004 17:22									#10
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quote: Originally posted by bipolarbear Speaking of MMORPG's, what, other than Everquest, is a good mmorpg to invest in?

Other then Everquest?

That's the first one you don't want to invest in.

Dark Age of Camelot is, I think, the best and most well-rounded (meaning, something for everyone) MMORPG available at the moment. Shadowbane can be good if you are purely interested in PvP, but it has alot of problems. I haven't played any others, so I can't recomend or warn against them.

And if you want a warsim, WWII Online is great. Planetside is alright, too... but it's more like a giant game of Tribes, and doesn't try to be a real simulation.


There are alot of new MMORPGs in development, however. Dark and Light and World of Warcraft are the two I'm most looking forward to.

	01-03-2004 03:49									#11
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quote: Shadowbane can be good if you are purely interested in PvP, but it has alot of problems.

what does PvP mean?

	01-03-2004 05:27									#12
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quote: Originally posted by bipolarbear what does PvP mean?

What a newb.


Player vs. Player - It's the main feature of Shadowbane, it has open PvP (I think the only MMORPG to still have that) and player built nations and cities that can be attacked and destroyed. The game is lacking alot, however. Even in the nation building (it's main feature), there isn't really anything to give purpose to cities and politics outside of having a place to spawn and wanting to kill people.

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thanks for putting up with my newbie questions

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are there any other good warisms?

	01-03-2004 17:48									#15
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I just told you, WWII Online.

It takes a real serious aproach, though - if you're looking for straight action, Planetside would probably be better. In WWII Online you can spend half an hour driving in a tank collumn only to be taken out by an ambush before even seeing an enemy. You have to really coordinate with other people and take part in organized attacks, or your time will be spent running/driving for hours only to be killed by people you don't see.

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THANKS

	03-03-2004 01:03									#17
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I wonder if this thread will ever die

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quote: Originally posted by Osweld I just told you, WWII Online. It takes a real serious aproach, though - if you're looking for straight action, Planetside would probably be better. In WWII Online you can spend half an hour driving in a tank collumn only to be taken out by an ambush before even seeing an enemy. You have to really coordinate with other people and take part in organized attacks, or your time will be spent running/driving for hours only to be killed by people you don't see.

sounds realistic - war is hell.

	03-03-2004 01:49									#19
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark sounds realistic - war is hell.

Exactly. Which is why not everyone would enjoy it. But still - the frustration of be killed before you even see an enemy is worth it to experience the co-ordinated attacks, and seeing tank collumns and bomber fleets working together to take out a town's defenders.

	03-03-2004 12:37									#20
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quote: I wonder if this thread will ever die

Not if I have anything to say about it

quote: the frustration of be killed before you even see an enemy is worth it to experience the co-ordinated attacks, and seeing tank collumns and bomber fleets working together to take out a town's defenders.

I like killing people in little towns Kinda like in Medal of Honor Allied Assault where you kill the nazis in that one little town. I love killing !

	04-03-2004 02:41									#21
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World of Warcraft is looking superb. Take a look at battle.net for the newly released transportation movie from WoW.
WOW!

	04-03-2004 09:31									#22
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kool!

	04-03-2004 12:21									#23
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I think World of Warcraft may be the first MMORPG that I buy. But I'm still a bit wary, because some of Blizzard's top dogs have moved elsewhere.

Blizzard is a good company. Although I admit I have never played Warcraft . Or Starcraft . I just don't like RTS games. I suck at them. But I did enjoy the Diablo games, even though they were essentually action games, something about them were compelling.

Blizzard is very good at creating compelling games with good gameplay.

And you can play as undead!! How cool is that