29-01-2004 03:27									#1
	Most annoying AI Civs too start next to: Ottomans and Koreans Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

The Ottomans and Koreans always attack me immediatly..before I even get out my first settler they are in my borders declaring war.

Anyone else notiuce how aggressive they are if you start close to them? I usually barely have time to get my 2nd city founded and and military units built before a spearman and a couple of warriors are pounding away at my capital or 2nd city.

This really puts me at a disadvantage on Emperor since I have to go all military and war with just 2 cities and forget about the Rex.

Dutch are basically treacherous and sneak attack all the time.

	29-01-2004 04:20									#2
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What map size are you on tiny? It would be a problem to have any two civs going to war with you in the first 10 turns or so, that is for sure.

Normally I would maybe have met two, but no stacks of spear + warrior that early. In std maps anyway. Did you change the distance of starting civs in the editor or place them?

	29-01-2004 05:02									#3
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I noticed this in a few games. They started close to me and were out for blood asap. They were in my territory with warriors and spearmen within first 10-15 turns taking my cities. Each time I start near them they do this. There is nothing I can do..not tribute..or anything, they are out for blood.

No I didn't change anything in editor. 2 times it was on island maps and 1 time on continents. Always Standard size.

Whats a good map size to play on do you suggest Large maybe?

I find it interesting these 2 civs in particular use this tactic everytime.