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Hot_Enamel is offline Hot_Enamel
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Panzer ...

Perhaps the one pic with our GPT should be edited.

Who knows what evil calculations those GS strategy nuts will come up with.



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The pics don't concern so much as the cocky attitude and our team members consistently agreeing with GS that GoW is in a dominant position to WIN the game.

I suggested after Roleplay that we assume a subserviant persona and make it seem ND really gained the most from the war so we didn't seem to be a target.

GS has taken on the strategy of making ND/GoW the force to beat and is actively trying to convince Lego of that. Our team members are HELPING to convince Lego that we are their most significant threat.

This does not seem like a good strategy to me.

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You know, GF might be right. Whereas I think this game is going to turn into a "Builder" game until the Space Race fires up (when we start lobbing nukes at each other), it might be smart to color our comments in the AAR so as to seem slightly under ND on the threat scale.

We must always be cautious and thinking.

Panzer, I also think that our GPT should get altered.

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I think we should be actively building right now for infrasturcture, Hoover and factories. We need cargo ships.

Our next goal IMO is to get Marines and wage an amphibious invasion of either Lego or GS depending on how things turn out.

I believe we should be building for the next war and that next war should be waged with Marines, transports and Battleships.

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gpt changed, from 143 to 103.

I would have made it less than 100 but that would have gotten rid of one digit and possibly made it obvious it was changed.

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You know I looked at that picture and kept trying to recall when we had that GPT. Now I feel stupid..

Actually I too think the game is entering builder mode for a while. Perhaps we need to consider disbanding unit to get improvements quickly(say to get Temple in our new cities, etc). In the intersite demogame I am categorically opposed to unit disbanding, in this case it makes muchj more sense. Maybe lower our riders down to 40 riders.

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Their at the peak of their upgrade cycle aren't they. The next war will be fought with Tanks/MA and Marines since we cannot build either and nothing upgrades to them this would leave building infrastructure and Defensive units a priority.

If we can conceivibly convert Riders to shields and Musketmen that would seem the way to go.

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insert requisite "I still don't trust ND, let's use cavs and kill them" remark here.

When are we getting our land damnit?

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Have they not given us our land yet?

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Last I checked just Ironguard

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And Zayrut.

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-What else are we supposed to get?

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a few other cities. It is a process, we are helping ND to shift south a bit by doing some worker stuff for them.

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gpt changed, from 143 to 103.

I would have made it less than 100 but that would have gotten rid of one digit and possibly made it obvious it was changed.


It's been a few days...

Can you change it to 303gpt ?
And see if anyone notices it

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Ok, seriously my thoughts on this. I'd be much more afraid of them seeing our F11 screen as it shows we're not such a runt as they think (and also that we are ahead of ND in every demographic). Btw, did anyone notice that we were 2nd place in land area up until like 2 turns ago? Check that last F11 screen I posted.

My biggest worry, however, is that we might be making Lego think that they are so ahead that our hopes rest in an invasion of Legoland sooner or later. That will mean they will start to be getting prepared.

Now, I am ALL for invading Lego, but 1) we need GS support and 2) we will need to do it before RRs.

Now, if we want to play builder we will be in a very good position to win the space race since we have some rather potentially productive cities and we can have ND build ICBMs and nuke the **** out of anyone while we build the little spaceship and declare a joint victory.

Btw, I am also a bit paranoid about ND but they have shown good faith in the land transfer. They still owe us Dar-el-Killam, Stonedina and Mavdad but think about it, we would also NEVER have handed out 3 of our most productive cities immedately after the war. Once we get Dar-el-Killam, I believe it is safe to say that ND will not backstab us in the near future.

That, however, does not mean that we should not be prepared. I think we can organize our defense a bit more efficiently and especially once we get our riders back home. Unfortunately our border with ND is very invadable with mobile units since it is too big: it is impossible to make an effective wall to block any massive Cav assault. Our border is like an egg, and it can crack at any of the 5 cities.

Fortunately we are 3 turns from building a bank at Imperial City, after that, it will start cranking Musket/Settler combos which should be a boost to our defenses. We should also start thinking in banks in certain key cities so that we can maintain our current Riders (I for one am not in favor of disbanding even one Rider). Also, our priority should be simple: GROWTH. The more our cities grow the more commerce they can bring in from extra tiles. Our FP will also be a boost and make some of the eastern cities more productive.

As long as we produce more muskets we should be relatively safe. The most important part is having a credible deterrent in our own Cavs. ND must realize that they might inflict permanent damage on us with an invasion, but that our counterattack can be equally brutal to them. Not so different than Cold-War-era M.A.D.

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